On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 02:44:03PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Adrian Bunk <b...@stusta.de> writes: >... > > When not using systemd as pid 1, that risk would be confined to the > > parts of systemd Debian would be using (currently only udev). > > There appears to be near-unanimous agreement that Debian will also be > using logind in the near future. > > I think "only" in this context is misleading, given that the components > we're going to be using anyway (including kdbus in this; if it's included > in the kernel, I highly doubt Debian will refuse to use it in the long > run) are pretty much the same components that people are concerned about > being unstable.
I expect Debian to use kdbus in the long run if it gets accepted into the upstream kernel in any case. Note that this does not imply that Debian has to switch to systemd. Ubuntu is also using udev and logind without using systemd, so they are and will continue to be available stand-alone. And having them standalone and not as part of the big systemd bundle makes it much easier to ship an older version of udev and/or logind in a release if that avoids upgrade headaches. > Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> cu Adrian -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org