Hey,

On 23/03/14 01:32, shirish शिरीष wrote:
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>> Yes, that is a good point. And even if they do, they will only see some
>> cryptic 'types of opportunities' that might not be meaningful to them.
>> Which brings us to the next question...
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>  Hi Tomasz,
>  That is exactly how I felt. While I'm not using it or going to do any
> commits but I do use it and want to use it whenever and wherever we
> promote debian within students and general populace at large.
> 
> Having said the above, it can be observed that most of the bugs which
> are there at the moment fall under the following categories :-
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I know it's slightly off topic, but I think you nicely described those.
I don't want to rewrite any existing manual, but maybe some additions to
descriptions on the how-can-i-help wiki page [1] could also help
newcomers? Not anything big, just a one or two additional sentences
pointing to some important facts (like orphaned packages having some
packaging that could be reused).


> e. Packages removed from testing but no reason given (that I feel is
> another bug, perhaps already reported)

There are quite a few reasons why a package could be removed. At the
moment, how-can-i-help cannot tell why so it provides you with qa link
(so you can check yourself). Why do you think it is a bug?


> And lastly bugs about sponsorship (RFS) which probably only an
> existing DD is able to do anything about it.

That is true, but DDs also use how-can-i-help :)

Of course, I do agree that many types of opportunities might not be
suitable to a fresh newcomer. So while I don't think we should hide them
by default, adding an option to show only selected types (using command
parameter; no configuration) is a nice idea :)


>> While explaining the syntax and usage of the new option (both in man and
>> in '--help') is straightforward, I wonder if we should specifically
>> mention that the gift bugs are meant for newcomers. Something like:
>> 'Hint: If you want to start contributing to Debian you should probably
>> look at 'gift' bugs first. You can do it by running how-can-i-help
>> (...)'. Should we make such a line appear in '--help' output? Won't
>> pointing at 'gift' bugs reduce changes of spotting other, more fitting
>> opportunities? What do you think?
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> 
> First of all, I'm not saying we do not show them. We could have all
> kinds of options, something like :-

By no means was I planning to hide them. You should be able to show any
combination of types. I was just thinking about adding a 'hint' text
about trying 'gift' bugs first. This could make someone to look only for
those and miss other type of opportunity in a package he or she uses.
Probably not a real issue.


Regards,
T.


[1] https://wiki.debian.org/how-can-i-help

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