Package: dpkg-dev
Version: 1.17.8
Severity: normal
Control: block 746443

Hi,

        A new version of Make has been released, and is currently in
 experimental. An archive rebuild was done to check for breakage with
 this new major version.  73 packages failed to build  (in comparison
 with a similar run with the current version of make). The results are
 here: http://aws-logs.debian.net/ftbfs-logs/results-make4/

        Of the 73 packages that failed, 10 were due to a known
 incompatibility, which has been fixed. About 20 or so were due to
 various issues i the package, unrelated to this report. However, 40
 packages failed to build due to the new make is not doing the expected
 thing when called as:  make -f debian/rules -qn build-arch

        (And by expected is return 2 when not found, any other return
 code otherwise). Since dpkg-buildpackage cannot ascertain that
 'build-arch' and 'build-indep' targets exist, it calls build, and does
 not load B-D-I first. 40 packages fail to build due to this phenomena
 (list appended).

The options, as I see it are:
 1) Do nothing. retain make-3.81 in Debian forever more. Needless to
    say, this is not very attractive. Pro: There is no action to
    take. Con: Almost every other distro is shipping a more recent
    make. We will continue to diverge from everyone else, and already
    the featires have diverged enough that people are having to add
    special cases in the vuild system for the Debian family of
    distributions.
 2) Hack dpkg-buildpackage to always load B-D-I, and go back to just
    calling ./debian/rules build. This is what we used to do. Pro: it
    is pretty easy to do (umm, I would think, but I don't know the dpkg
    code base so well anymore). This has the con of the inefficiency we
    have tried to eliminate, in that all the build dependencies are
    loaded for every build, even when not strictly needed.
  3) We state that packages must provide build-arch and build-indep for
     Jessie. This should trivially be true for every package using cdbs
     or debhelper (or, heaven forbid, my old home brew build system),
     and have dpkg-buildpackage call them without testing to see if they
     exist.  We would need to do another archive rebuild with the
     modified dpkg-buildpackage to see how many packages do not
     actually not implement these targets.

        1) and 2) look to be unacceptable. 3) is where we want to be. I
 have blocked migration of make_4.0 with a serious bug report, and will
 make this bug block it,

        Ideally, we should just bite the bullet and demand that all
 packages implement the build-arch and build-indep targets, and call
 them without testing for them as needed. An experimental build of
 dpkg-dev could be used to do a full archive rebuild to see how that
 shakes out.

apt_1.0.1
aspectc++_1.2-1
cernlib_20061220+dfsg3-4
csound_6.02~dfsg-2
dhcpcd_3.2.3-11
geant321_3.21.14.dfsg-11
gecode_4.2.1-1
gimp-dimage-color_1.1.0-3.2
git_1.9.2-1
gwhere_0.2.3.dfsg.1-4
gzip_1.6-3
haskell-tasty-golden_2.2.0.2-1
haskell-terminal-progress-bar_0.0.1.3-1
krb5_1.12.1+dfsg-1
libgksu_2.0.13~pre1-6
libreoffice_4.1.5-2
libusb-1.0_1.0.18-2
libusbx_1.0.17-1
lletters_0.1.95+gtk2-3.2
lpe_1.2.6.13-0.1
mclibs_20061220+dfsg3-3
mingw-w64_3.1.0-1
openjade1.3_1.3.2-12
openjade_1.4devel1-21
opusfile_0.5-1
paw_2.14.04.dfsg.2-9
plucker_1.8-34
portaudio_18.1-7.1
postgis_2.1.2+dfsg-2
pulseaudio_5.0-2
r-cran-base64enc_0.1-1-2
r-cran-maldiquant_1.10-1
readahead-fedora_1.5.6-5
sdcc_3.3.0+dfsg-1
slmon_0.5.13-2.2
socks4-server_4.3.beta2-18
speex_1.2~rc1.1-1
spellutils_0.7-5
xnee_3.18-1
xz-utils_5.1.1alpha+20120614-2

-- System Information:
Debian Release: jessie/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'stable')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 3.13-1-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) (ignored: LC_ALL 
set to en_US.UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages dpkg-dev depends on:
ii  base-files    7.2
ii  binutils      2.24.51.20140425-1
ii  bzip2         1.0.6-5
ii  libdpkg-perl  1.17.8
ii  make          4.0-2
ii  patch         2.7.1-5
ii  xz-utils      5.1.1alpha+20120614-2

Versions of packages dpkg-dev recommends:
ii  bcc [c-compiler]         0.16.17-3.1
ii  build-essential          11.6
ii  fakeroot                 1.20-3
ii  gcc [c-compiler]         4:4.8.2-3
ii  gcc-4.4 [c-compiler]     4.4.7-8
ii  gcc-4.5 [c-compiler]     4.5.4-1
ii  gcc-4.6 [c-compiler]     4.6.4-7
ii  gcc-4.7 [c-compiler]     4.7.3-13
ii  gcc-4.8 [c-compiler]     4.8.2-21
ii  gcc-4.9 [c-compiler]     4.9.0-1
ii  gnupg                    1.4.16-1.1
ii  gnupg2                   2.0.22-3
ii  gpgv                     1.4.16-1.1
ii  libalgorithm-merge-perl  0.08-2

Versions of packages dpkg-dev suggests:
ii  debian-keyring  2014.04.25

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