Hi Adrian,

On  Fr 04 Jul 2014 10:41:39 CEST, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:

On 07/04/2014 10:19 AM, Mike Gabriel wrote:
PulseAudio is everywhere now, and it's mature enough already to be used
as the default backend.

doing something because everyone is doing it has not been a good reason
for acting in the past with several awful examples in human history.

Eh, please keep that in philosophy class.

Can you provide a more technical reason? Why should we skip using the
gstreamer layer and directly communicate with pulseaudio? If I
understand the gstreamer design correctly, it ends up using pulse
underneath, anyway.

I already explained that. Pulse Audio has become the de-facto standard
audio server on Linux and MATE should therefore install it's PA
backend by default.

You also only get a fully working Pulse Audio volume control [1] in MATE
when mate-media-pulse is installed.

Adrian

[1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/VolumeControl#User_Experience

Can you please take care of these two *-pulse bugs, then?

I understand Stefano's disposition (on IRC) that gstreamer won't depend on another daemon and if you want a pulseaudio based system, you can switch later (after installation of the meta-package mate-desktop-environment).

However, I also get the usability part, so I give way to this request.

Please take care of getting this change into unstable, please.

Thanks,
Mike
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