Am 20.08.2014 13:27, schrieb Ansgar Burchardt: > On 08/20/2014 10:12, Simon McVittie wrote: >> On Thu, 14 Aug 2014 at 13:24:34 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: >>> Two possible outcomes then >>> >>> 1/ Make systemd recommend/depend on dbus (recommend would probably be >>> sufficient) >> >> According to the initial bug report, the base system is installed without >> Recommends, so no, Recommends is not sufficient unless we arrange for d-i to >> install dbus some other way. systemd already indirectly Recommends dbus, >> for instance: > > Then we could also just make sure dbus is included in the base > installation, i.e. increase its priority to either standard or > important.
Since systemd already depends on libdbus-1-3, I'd bump libdbus-1-3 to important and dbus to standard. Does that sound ok? > Maybe also for libpam-systemd? Not quite sure about that one. On one hand, libpam-systemd is mostly interesting for desktop environments and multi-user systems (and the desktop meta packages usually already pull in libpam-systemd), so keeping the base system as small as possible seems desirable. On the other hand, even stuff like remote access via SSH might need libpam-systemd, e.g. if you run screen sessions which should persist when you log out. I *think* this requires a proper logind session to not be killed on logout, but this would need further investigation. > systemd should still Recommend: dbus to get it installed on upgrades > from wheezy. As Simon already mentioned, libdbus-1-3 already recommends dbus, but I guess an explicit Recommends in systemd wouldn't hurt. Also, the user might already have libdbus-1-3- installed in wheezy and deselected the dbus recommends. Adding it to systemd would pull it in anew afaics. Michael -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth?
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