-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 18/08/15 07:34, Dmitry Smirnov wrote: > Hi Jamie, > > On Monday 17 August 2015 16:14:30 Jamie Heilman wrote: >> This is something of a show stopper: > > Sorry about that. This is a reminder to me to never ever upload Xpra without > comprehensive testing due to frequent regressions even in minor bugfix > releases... :( I normally keep quiet. But not this time. Enough is enough about claiming "frequent regressions" from upstream. I've heard it before, and I have provided statistics on those so called "frequent regressions" and where they actually come form vs the need to fix things. So let's get some facts straight.
First, some context: everyone can take a long hard look at the 0.14.10 "stable" version found in Debian and decide if "stable" really means what they think it means: http://xpra.org/trac/wiki/Packaging There's a large number of serious issues in 0.14.10, people will hit them despite the fact that those issues are known and have an easy fix upstream. What percentage will bother filing a Debian ticket for those? Probably no more than a low single digit (and that's for the very obvious ones, not the odd crashes), but until they do things don't get fixed at all. This is a fundamentally flawed process and I just don't buy that "this is the Debian" way. I know for fact packages get fixed, not always just reactively. Second, this fix has been committed exactly 2 weeks ago, because *we* do test things and find such issues very quickly: http://xpra.org/trac/changeset/10214 We even document what goes in each branch, and what will go in and when - where you could have found this fix from day one in this branch's commit log: http://xpra.org/trac/wiki/Versions/PendingFixes But if you want to make us look bad because you did not test and did not notice this in *your* package for 2 weeks, fine. At least we're clear on that. Third, AFAIK this bug did not affect anyone using the packages we provide at xpra.org - only the packages provided by Debian. Just like very many of the bugs we encounter. libav anyone? webp versioning? Debian only bugs in sound subsystem? packaging differences? shipping an old version? (see above) questionable patches applied? etc Although we do end up dealing with those as well, despite the pain. >> Trivial to fix though, xpra/client/window_backing_base.py just needs >> to import os. > > Thank you. I'll upload ASAP... > Lastly, please tell me how to unsubscribe from Debian's bug system for xpra, as I cannot find any way of doing this myself from here (it says I am not registered): https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/xpra I no longer wish to read disparaging comments like the one above. I will no longer try to help support the outdated versions found in Debian. Cheers Antoine -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlXSuMwACgkQGK2zHPGK1rsD1QCeP1v6EbFF5LCFSMRLRqnTvRE0 NSsAn1xfIRL0Ie2CMU9n7RlaC24PBckD =zH21 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

