Nathanael Nerode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> And for whatever it's worth, as long as I'm maintaining the packages, >> these files will almost certainly not be removed unless there's some >> overwhelmingly convincing reason, like debian-legal tells me it needs >> to be done, > We've done that.
You don't have any kind of authority, as far as I know. >> there's a successful General Resolution passed on a >> relevant topic, > That's happened. Do you need another, even more specific, one? If you do, > I'll be happy to oblige if I ever get through NM. > >> or they're removed from the upstream... > Well, that's not happening right now it looks like. :-P > > Please remove these from 'main' ASAP. Thank you. > They can be placed in a package in "non-free" if you wish, as they appear to > have licenses which make them distributable. > > It would be good to get this done as soon as possible, so that there is a > releaseable version of emacs in etch. It is already releasable, thanks. > Alternatively, you could initiate a GR to overrule the Social Contract with > respect to these works. > > Oh, FYI, don't pay too much attention to Michael Edwards. He has > misinterpreted the meaning of the "integrity of the work" provisions in We do pay attention to Michael. We even agree with him. > Jerome Marant's claim that the articles are "logically non modifiable without > the consent of their author" is wrong, and is apparently due to the same > point of confusion which also comes up when we discuss making standards > documents "modifiable": you can't modify the original, but you should be > allowed to create a derivative work, a modified copy. Consider the > Declaration of Independence and these famous "modified versions": the > Declaration of Sentiments, and the Declaration of the Rights of Man. The > "modifications" did not change the original Declaration of Independence. > "Modified versions" of these essays and speeches would likewise not change > RMS's words, and would not pretend to be RMS's words. They would be > different essays which used some of RMS's rhetoric and style. I stand that removing those documents will not make Emacs more free than it is nowdays. You are an extremist, a fundamentalist, with no bits of common sense at all. You aren't helping anyone, not even the Debian Project. So just please go away and find yourself another sandbox. -- Jérôme Marant
