On 2017-01-20 12:52:52, intrigeri wrote: > Hi, > > GtkStatusIcon (along with the whole "system tray" concept) has been > deprecated in 3.14, so I'm not surprised that it starts breaking. > On my desktop it's even worse: I can't see the icon anywhere at all. > Still, as long as one single binary package includes both the backend > and the applet, I think it's worth shipping the package in Stretch, as > the backend is still useful in itself. > > Regarding future plans, quoting what I wrote on > https://bugs.debian.org/799942#24: > > "For the record, my plan is to add a GNOME Shell extension, and > deprecate the old tray icon. Once this is done, I'll happily take good > patches that port the old tray status applet to whatever interface is > suitable for non-GNOME desktops these days. If this does not happen, > there are great chances that I'll remove the old tray status applet at > some point." > > I've started writing the aforementioned GNOME Shell extension back in > June, but did not manage to complete it in time for Stretch, so I'm > sorry that Stretch will include a poorly working applet :( … unless > someone wants to try and complete that work in the next few days, in > which case I'll happily share the initial skeleton I wrote in case it > might help.
Hi, I haven't looked in details at GNOME Shell, but I suspect that the whole "system tray" concept is not deprecated at all. The standard, which dates from 2009, is still publicly documented here: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/systemtray-spec/ ... and is not marked as "deprecated" there. GtkStatusIcon *is* marked as deprected in GTK 3.14: https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/GtkStatusIcon.html ... but they suggest using GNotification instead: https://developer.gnome.org/gio/unstable/GNotification.html ... I am not sure what *that* does or if supports the "tray" - I doubt it. I wouldn't rely on GTK's decisions to see if a feature is officially "deprecated" or not. For example, QT still supports the "Tray Icon" concept: http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qsystemtrayicon.html#details It supports either the old systray implementation or the "new D-Bus StatusNotifierItem" interface, documented here: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/StatusNotifierItem/StatusNotifierItem/ I assume that may be similar to the GNotification system in GTK/Gnome. Anyways, long story short, i still think that concept remains and should stay, and there's a way to implement it in a wide-compatibility way... Now, I understand that parcimonie is Perl/GTK and will not change frameworks just for fun, so I'm not sure how that would look there. ;) But don't rip out the old systray support - it's *still* "whatever interface is suitable for non-GNOME" these days, as far as I understand it (no idea about what KDE does). The systray is what I use here anyways under xmonad, under Debian stretch. In it I see a lot of apps that still use it: Network Manager, Workrave, Redshift and GMPC... I use it a lot. Please don't give up on us old farts. ;) A. -- Arguing for surveillance because you have nothing to hide is no different than making the claim, "I don't care about freedom of speech because I have nothing to say." - Edward Snowden
