Hello!

On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 08:15:11AM +0000, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Package: xfree86-driver-synaptics
> Severity: important
> 
> I recently tried Debian/etch on my laptop and using the default
> configuration provided by Debian the touchpad can't be used as the mouse
> moves maybe 30 pixels when my finger goes from one side of the touchpad
> to the other side.

Did you read /usr/share/doc/xfree86-driver-synaptics/README.alps and
tried the configuration suggested there?

The 3rd paragraph says:
"Since ALPS touchpads don't have the same resolution as Synaptics
touchpads, you probably have to change some parameter values."

> I tried Ubuntu breezy and there I haven't the problem. I looked what was
> causing the problem ... and it's this package. And indeed when I tried on
> Debian with the Ubuntu package, which has been renamed
> xorg-driver-synpatics in breezy and then xserver-xorg-input-synaptics in
> dapper (could you rename the Debian package too ? it makes
> sense since when I look for X related stuff, I expect now an
> xorg prefix), it works fine ...

It didn't make much sense[1] to rename the package when Xorg entered
Debian, maybe with the modular X I'll use the same naming scheme as X.
[1]: http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2005/06/msg00551.html

> The ubuntu package is an older version in breezy : 0.13.6
> http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/x11/xorg-driver-synaptics
> http://packages.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/x/xorg-driver-synaptics/xorg-driver-synaptics_0.14.3+revertedto+0.13.6-0ubuntu3/changelog
> 
> As you can see from the changelog, they had numerous problems with the
> 0.14.x version and they decided to revert to the previous version.
> 
> Now in dapper they came back to 0.14.3 (but I haven't tried the dapper
> version), maybe they have a fix in that version ?
> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/x11/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics

they don't. The package is identical to Debian's except for some changed
install directories and build flags due to the modular Xorg being
already available in Ubuntu.

Oh, actually it seems they are affected by this same bug(?) but never
reported here (who knows about upstream...).
https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bugs

> I'd be glad if you could coordinate with the respective Ubuntu maintainers
> and check if they have a fix: Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> mainly (up to now).

Eheheh, been there done that (not much successful also because X is
evolving differently in Ubuntu). Oddly, now that you point to the
Ubuntu's changelog I see that some of my suggestions have never been
taken into consideration and they later had some problem.
Anyway they obviously have different priorities than we have so maybe
shipping an older version of the driver is better than trying to fix
regressions.

> Please tell me what information I should provide you so that we can fix
> the stuff definitely.
> 
> My laptop is a Dell latitude D410. The xorg.conf mentions this:
> Section "InputDevice"
>         Identifier      "Synaptics Touchpad"
>         Driver          "synaptics"
>         Option          "SendCoreEvents"        "true"
>         Option          "Device"                "/dev/psaux"
>         Option          "Protocol"              "auto-dev"
>         Option          "HorizScrollDelta"      "0"
> EndSection
> 
> More information about the touchpad extracted from /proc/bus/input/devices
> I: Bus=0011 Vendor=0002 Product=0008 Version=6337
> N: Name="AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint"
> P: Phys=isa0060/serio1/input0
> H: Handlers=mouse1 event2 ts1
> B: EV=f
> B: KEY=420 0 70000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
> B: REL=3
> B: ABS=1000003
> 
> I can configure the touchpad to a more sensible speed with the parameters
> described in "man synaptics" but it should definitely work out of the box.

README.alps is pretty clear about the problem being a different
resolution on different touchpad models (Synaptics v/s ALPS) so either
one needs a specific configuration.
Can you try the suggested ALPS configuration in README.alps? If that
works the bug can be closed (IMO).
Did you experienced any different behaviour with older versions of the
debian package?

BTW: I'm wondering why Ubuntu's package is supposed to work "out of the
box" but I don't know what Ubuntu sets up ([gk]synaptics?) and I'm not
really worried about that as their "{up,down}grade dance" seems much
more dangerous (looking at the bugs they're suffering that are actually
fixed in the latest version) than working with upstream to fix current
bugs and/or regressions.
<fiddling with Ubuntu's launchpad>
Oh, it seems they automated the process in the xserver configuration
scripts.

Back to Debian's: currently no setup is done in my package. Probably the
modular dexconf will allow a better integration of external drivers in
xorg.conf and the touchpad can be automagically configured upon
installation. Let's see.

ciao
-- 
mattia
:wq!


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