severity 861925 wishlist
tags 861925 + wontfix
thanks

Hi Julian

Thank you for this suggestion. I agree with you that this would have
been the best, but you have to consider the history of this software.
When cron-apt was developed (a long long time ago) there were no
cron-job included in apt. This is why I developed this function.

A few years ago I was informed that apt have this cron functionality
documented and were considering to drop the cron-apt package (removing
it from the archives) but there were cron-apt users complaining. They
did not want the apt cron functionality due to various reasons. The
cron-apt functionality allow a few things not possible with current
apt cron functionality.

I think one of the aspects was the easy of activation, just install
the package. At least if I remember correctly. I can dig up more
reasons if you are really interested.

So again, thank you for your suggestion. However this has already been
considered.

I would say like this. I will not actively develop cron-apt further,
at least not without contribution from other people. So in essence the
cron functionality in the apt package is what will change and hence
that could hopefully incorporate everything that cron-apt can. When
that happen I will simply make the cron-apt a transitional package or
just a package that include one or a few config files. I guess this
may take some time before that happens.

Best regards

// Ola

On 6 May 2017 at 00:34, Julian Andres Klode <j...@debian.org> wrote:
> Package: cron-apt
> Severity: normal
>
> APT already provides a carefully planned cron job and
> systemd timers that do careful things like spreading
> updates around the entire day, not blocking cron jobs
> by sleeping (if using systemd) and perform unattended
> upgrades using unattended-upgrades. This is used by
> default in all Ubuntu installations.
>
> It would be better to work on the apt one together
> instead of having two cron jobs that each have their
> own shortcomings (maybe we can add some hooks to the
> apt cron job / systemd timers?).
>
> -- System Information:
> Debian Release: 9.0
>   APT prefers unstable
>   APT policy: (900, 'unstable'), (500, 'unstable-debug'), (500, 
> 'testing-proposed-updates'), (500, 'buildd-unstable'), (500, 'testing'), 
> (100, 'experimental'), (1, 'experimental-debug')
> Architecture: amd64
>  (x86_64)
> Foreign Architectures: i386
>
> Kernel: Linux 4.10.0-trunk-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores)
> Locale: LANG=en_IE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_IE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
> Shell: /bin/sh linked to /usr/bin/dash
> Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)
>
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