On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 09:59:22PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > - The penalty of pulling in network-online.target is simply that for the
> > local case postfix is started a bit later then necessary during boot.

> There's no reason that this *should* be true for an intermittently-online
> machine.  The network-online.target is specifically defined so that services
> are not started until the network connection is actually up; or put another
> way, if a system is booted and can't get a network connection, those
> services are not started.  We don't just start them at some random point,
> that would defeat the purpose.

So, I just noticed that NetworkManager-wait-online uses --timeout:

ExecStart=/usr/bin/nm-online -s -q --timeout=30

which means this delays services at most 30 seconds at boot.

And you can ignore my blather about this preventing services from running.
Sorry!

(I'm not convinced that having a timeout is actually sensible behavior, but,
well, it's what's implemented.)

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