On 07/09/2017 10:22 AM, Brian Potkin wrote:
fvwm here. But I do not think the WM is relevant.

me either, but since three wm reported now, it is more evidence that wm isn't relevant.


I reverted back to sysvinit/uninstalled systemd (and configured Xwrapper to
run X as root again, so it would start without the systemd bits). With
systemd gone, the problem no longer occurs.

A simple change to PID 1 as init makes no difference to the behaviour
here. Altering ~/,bash_logout gives a quick fix (workaround?).

I don't think it is the pid 1 part of the systemd package that causes this issue, but rather logind since that is involved with VTs, and logind is invoked when the issue occurs (and logind is removed when uninstalling systemd and the issue is resolved); logind is part of the main systemd package, so IMO systemd is the correct package to report the bug against.

After rebooting with sysvinit-core installed, you have to apt-get remove systemd to fix the behavior, or the systemd bits are still there. And, when you do uninstall systemd, you will break X because stretch is setup to rely on some systemd bits (?maybe consolekit?) to not need to start X as root. You will need to add the line:
needs_root_rights=yes
to /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config to get X to start again without the systemd bits.

I suppose it could be coincidence, and the bug lies elsewhere and some systemd component just causes the bug to manifest. But, so far I have seen/ been bitten by *a lot* of buggy behavior in systemd, so biased toward suspecting this is yet another systemd bug.

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