On Thu, Aug 03, 2017 at 08:16:30PM -0400, gregor herrmann wrote: > On Fri, 04 Aug 2017 02:16:03 +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 03, 2017 at 06:25:46PM -0400, gregor herrmann wrote: > > > What I don't understand in the point of view of the "keep Uploaders" > > > proponents: What does this information, whether correct or not, > > > actually give others? Are they going to email or phone these persons > > > privately when emails to the BTS or the maintainer/team list are > > > ignored? And what happens if they ignore these communications as > > > well? > > > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?bug-rev=on;include=severity:minor;include=tags:pending;maint=pkg-perl-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org#_2_5_5 > > > > These "Updating the <package> Uploaders list" bugs. > > > > When the MIA team has determined that a person is MIA,[1] > > it can send bugs informing all packages where that person > > is listed in Uploaders that the person is no longer active. > > Ok, that's a good example: > > So, when we (pkg-perl) get such a list of bug reports (or, which is > less work, a single mail from the MIA team about XY being inactive) > what happens is that > - we probably know that already (but it's still good to have the > offical confirmation) > - we remove them from Uploaders in git > - nothing else changes: the package will be uploaded when there's any > reason for it (new release, bugfix) as before when XY was still > mentioned in Uploaders > > Dropping the Uploaders field would mean that we save the work (which > can be quite tedious when we have to add the right bug numbers to the > right packages' changelog entry) without any other changes to the > maintenance of the package.
But then the information who is currently part of pkg-perl is needed in machine-readable form and displayed by tools like DDPO and tracker for: 1. being able to inform a team that a member is MIA and inform the team, and 2. being able to detect when the last team member is MIA Policy equally applies to packages where point 2 is far more likely to happen than for pkg-perl. Autogenerating Uploaders like GNOME does [1] would be an alternative approach. > Cheers, > gregor cu Adrian [1] https://sources.debian.net/src/gnome-pkg-tools/0.19.9/1/rules/uploaders.mk/ -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed
