On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 01:46:56PM -0400, David Bremner wrote:
> <[email protected]> writes:
> > Dear David Bremner & Adam Borowski,
> >
> > I was running nullmailer on sysvinit systems without any problems until
> > the 2.1-4 release which tried to pull in systemd - I did a local
> > recompilation with systemd-sysv | sysvinit-core and the init script here
> > works without any problems. Would you be willing to take this change to
> > the official package?
> 
> nullmailer doesn't currently include a sysv init script (neither
> upstream nor the debian package), so that's why I marked it as needing
> systemd. You can see why the old Debian specific init script was dropped
> in NEWS.Debian.

Harald: the package as-is doesn't generally work on sysv-rc or openrc (it's
the rc system not init that matters), only systemd.  It might be possible
that mails that were possible to deliver immediately still get through (I
haven't tested), but anything that requires the daemon will (AFAIK) be
silently lost.

I'm not a nullmailer user -- I only forwarded the bug report (sans all the
profanity :p), but now I see that indeed nullmailer is a good deal better
than ssmtp.

Ssmtp is basically same as:
    echo "ssh mail.$DOMAIN sendmail" >/usr/bin/sendmail
(other than using SMTP not ssh), thus it can't handle intermittent delivery
failures to the smarthost in any way better than saving them into a file.
A human sender at least gets an error message, though, unlike a queue no
one processes.  Thus: nullmailer > ssmtp > nullmailer-no-queue.

> If you want to provide support for sysvinit, please open a seperate
> wishlist bug for that, and we can discuss it there.

With the above in mind, support for modular inits would be nice.  I'm not
exactly swimming in tuits, though, and I can't force David to reimplement
this on his own.


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