On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 10:25:33PM +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
> ...
> I have also tested that the problem is still present in upstream git
> HEAD.
> 
> It looks to me the best is to take this issue upstream. Do you want me
> to forward your bug report and your example in the upstream bugzilla [1] 
> or do you prefer to do it yourself?

despite me doing an honest search for an already reported bug like
this before, i did not find this one, but it seems to address the same
problem:
https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=21422

it is marked as INVALID with the explanation that there are no
"robust" variants of the pthread-condition variables.

torvalds suggestion mentions catching signals, but as i exlpained this
is not really an option for us (and does also not work if the waiter
is killed by SIGKILL e.g. by the OOM killer...).
the other suggestion is to use other non-blocking synchronization
methods such as C11 atomics.

and further down it was also suggested to directly use linux' futex
operations.

thats what i actually did in the last week: signal my "subscribers" via
a FUTEX_WAKE and by using non-blocking atomic memory ops. it works and
will probably yield much better real-time behaviour (not yet tested).

still i had to implement it for our system and my guess is that it
might break other in-production systems (because they  erroneously
rely on what is considered to be not-required behaviour).

so maybe debian should at least make an explicit warning when
installing glibc >= 2.25? 

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Florian Schmidt

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