severity 119006 wishlist
retitle 119006 Please clarify that raw and -raw are not the opposite
thanks control robot programme

As stated in my last e-mail, I think the documentation should be more
verbose in stating, that 
stty raw
and 
stty -raw
are not related. The current documentation indicates, that "-" negates
a setting, which is clearly not the case for "raw" (I haven't checked
other compound entries).

Background: Some programmes (e.g. perl-modules) assume that they can
safely switch to "raw" mode (e.g. for controlling special characters)
and later undo this behaviour with "-raw". Since, e.g., "istrip" is not
set again, in some terminal windows entering umlauts no longer works.

While those bugs are clearly not the fault of coreutils, I also
assumed (probably alongside the authors of those programmes) that the
method was indeed correct. Only after having been pointed out to the
contrary I now see that the documentaition of stty does indeed not
claim this behaviour. But this statement is not very clear and maybe
overread.

Greetings

            Helge
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