Hi Javier and Michael, 

On Mon Mar 12, 2018 at 14:02:43 +0100, Michael Biebl wrote:
> [systemd maintainer speaking here]
> Hi Javier
> On Sun, 11 Mar 2018 23:04:21 +0000
> =?utf-8?q?Javier_Fern=C3=A1ndez-Sanguino_Pe=C3=B1a?= <j...@debian.org> wrote:
> >    * debian/cron.init, debian/cron.service: Make sure cron is started last 
> > and
> >      stopped first, with patch provided by Harald Dunke
> >      (Closes: #767016, #801384, #783665) (LP: #1593317)
> (mis)using Type=idle for this is not a proper fix.
> See the relevant documentation in man systemd.service:
> >            Behavior of idle is very similar to simple; however, actual 
> > execution of the service program is delayed until all active jobs are
> >            dispatched. This may be used to avoid interleaving of output of 
> > shell services with the status output on the console. Note that this
> >            type is useful only to improve console output, it is not useful 
> > as a general unit ordering tool, and the effect of this service type
> >            is subject to a 5s time-out, after which the service program is 
> > invoked anyway.
> The documentation is pretty clear, that Type=idle should *not* be used
> for ordering purposes. It is not a proper fix.
> See https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=767016#37
> for a better alternative of actually specifying what cron needs.

I was about to write the same mail. Javier, it seems you probably missed
my comment on 767016#37. The way you fix it just fixes a sympton, but
not the bug itself. Michael was so nice to point to the correct
documentation, that i was still seeking for when writing the first draft
for that mail.

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