On Fri, May 04, 2018 at 12:24:05AM +0100, Chris Lamb wrote:
> Dear Nicholas,
> 
> > the experience I gained while investigating them will make diagnosing
> > potential future autopkgtest failures faster
> 
> I trust I'm not hearing any kind of apologetic subtext in your
> reply.. If I look think about anything that I might be vain enough
> to claim I "know", I usually learnt it when something broke. Or I
> broke it. :)

David Bremner tells me "the fancy word for that is experiential
learning" :p As far as subtext...mm, it wasn't intentional, and my
paragraph is kind of unclear, but it's possible there's some
unconscious self-promotion or a ":. autopkgtest is good"
subtext.  I'm optimistic about autopkgtest and DebCI.  Here is why:

> Anyway, thank you for your kind comments. Do let me know if/when
> you have any updates to the package, particularly one that fixes the
> FTBFS twice-in-a-row.

This was solved in #896998 "python-pip: missing required _vendor
module. Broken ${python:Depends}?".  Something in the sid's Python
ecosystem changed, broke python-pip, which broke Elpy's lisp parsing
of "python -m pip --help", which broke various self-tests.  I expect
Elpy's many self-tests are going to be a simultaneous PITA and
indirect QA tool, because the package will function as a kind of
canary for Python regressions in sid.  I'm sure there are other
packages that do this and Elpy's not unique in this way, of course.

> This interaction has made me think that a Debian Maintainer
> application should be on your TODO as well.

Thank you! :-D  That means a lot to me.

Debian Maintainer since 2016-12-21 ;-)
https://nm.debian.org/person/sten


Cheers,
Nicholas

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