Hi Mike, Thanks for your detailed answer.
On Monday, May 25, 2020 11:55:00 PM CEST Mike Gabriel wrote: > Debian users expect from Debian, to be a safe harbour, so all package > maintainers are requested to patch out code that does unwanted / > uncontrollable connections to the internet for stats collections and > such. I perfectly understand your point, we are working to fix this and it will take some days of work (in our limited free overnight time). > While I understand the interest in usage statistics, in Debian we > cannot have that part of the phoning-home code. I am sorry. This widget is not about usage statistics, that are already opt-in only. This widget informs the user about new Remmina versions and changes. No more no less. Just to clarify ;-) > > > Remmina on a regular basis verify if there's a new file or if the file of > > the version requested (the PHP parameter) has been changed/updated. > > Thanks for the explanation of the mechanism. > > > We do this to notify users about new versions, especially when there are > > important bugs that have been fixed. > > This is not helpful in a GNU distribution using a conservative-style > release model (not sure if this is the correct term) like Debian does. > Imagine Debian stable and oldstable users being reminded of their > software being out of date on every upstream release. Of course, their > software is out of date, as they use remmina from Debian (old)stable > (not testing/unstable). They get those notifications but cannot do > anything about it (except upgrading to Debian testing). This is a good point. I agree. > > So, also from a usability point of view, those notification windows > will be a disturbance to the users of Debian. > > > Libreoffice does something similar for instance and other software, > > in Debian, > > as well. > > Really? Than this must be considered as a bug. Which other packages > have you observed doing this? Regarding Libreoffice I see is not the case anymore since a long time, sorry. I don't have evidence of other software at the moment, if I find any I'll fill a bug as well. > > > I understand it may be quite annoying and we can add an opt-out option, > > would that be enough? > > Nope. I'd vote for a build-time switch that disables that code. I am > sorry. Another option could be a disabled-by-default (via build-time > option) update notification feature. A new remmina user should not be > bothered by update notification popups they won't be able to install > (because their Debian version won't have that update). Yes, understood. > I hope, you are ok with the above and the strictness of the policy. The news widget does other stuff than just showing the release notes, so we have to take out those functionalities. We need time and in the meanwhile 1.4.5 is already out, so please be flexible for this time. I prefere to relase a clean and cleaned 1.4.6 version than playing with workaround patches that may introduce other bugs > > light+love > Mike Regards Antenore
signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
