Package: apt Version: 2.1.12 Severity: normal Hello,
The release notes tell people that they should basically use apt-get upgrade apt-get dist-upgrade But people tend to rather use apt upgrade apt dist-upgrade I guess essentially because apt provides progression indication. The problem is that these are not equivalent: apt upgrade will attempt to install additional packages required by newer versions of existing packages. That can lead to conflicts/breaks with other existing packages, and thus get into all the complexity that using apt-get upgrade first avoids. The problem is then that actual users end up in *other* situations than what would typically be tested according to the release notes. We can try to insist on making people use apt-get upgrade instead of apt upgrade, but I believe that can only work if apt-get provides at least *some* progress indication, especially for distribution upgrades, whose duration are quite unknown before doing them. Alternatively, we could fix apt into behaving really like apt-get, to avoid that discrepancy between what debian developers actually test and what users actually use. Samuel -- System Information: Debian Release: bullseye/sid APT prefers testing APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (500, 'unstable-debug'), (500, 'testing-debug'), (500, 'stable-debug'), (500, 'proposed-updates-debug'), (500, 'proposed-updates'), (500, 'oldoldstable'), (500, 'buildd-unstable'), (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'stable'), (500, 'oldstable'), (1, 'experimental-debug'), (1, 'buildd-experimental'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Foreign Architectures: i386 Kernel: Linux 5.9.0-4-amd64 (SMP w/8 CPU threads) Kernel taint flags: TAINT_WARN, TAINT_OOT_MODULE, TAINT_UNSIGNED_MODULE Locale: LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=fr_FR.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE not set Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system) LSM: AppArmor: enabled Versions of packages apt depends on: ii adduser 3.118 ii debian-archive-keyring 2019.1 ii gpgv 2.2.20-1 ii gpgv1 1.4.23-1+b1 ii libapt-pkg6.0 2.1.12 ii libc6 2.31-5 ii libgcc-s1 10.2.1-1 ii libgnutls30 3.6.15-4 ii libseccomp2 2.5.0-3+b1 ii libstdc++6 10.2.1-1 ii libsystemd0 247.1-3 Versions of packages apt recommends: ii ca-certificates 20200601 Versions of packages apt suggests: pn apt-doc <none> ii aptitude 0.8.13-2+b1 ii dpkg-dev 1.20.5 ii gnupg 2.2.20-1 ii gnupg1 1.4.23-1+b1 ii gnupg2 2.2.20-1 ii powermgmt-base 1.36 ii synaptic 0.90.2 -- no debconf information
