On 21 Mar 2021 20:50, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 11:31:45AM -0600, Al Stone wrote: > > On 21 Mar 2021 14:20, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 11:06:01AM -0600, Al Stone wrote: > > > > On 20 Mar 2021 00:09, Ivo De Decker wrote: > > > > > Control: tags -1 moreinfo > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 04:25:01PM -0600, Al Stone wrote: > > > > > > Please remove the version of gnucobol in unstable. Per upstream, > > > > > > this version in not backwards compatible with any prior version. > > > > > > I made a mistake in packaging it at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > An upload of the proper version (3.1.2) is being prepared. > > > > > > > > > > Removing a package from unstable and then uploading the same package > > > > > with a > > > > > lower version isn't possible. If you want to go back to version 3.x, > > > > > you'll > > > > > need to do an upload with a version higher than the current one. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > Ivo > > > > > > > > Understood. My only option may be to increase the epoch. > > > > > > An epoch is not the only option, and it is the wrong option: > > > https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#epochs-should-be-used-sparingly > > > > Why are you assuming I have not read the documentation? ... > > You wrote "My only option", which implied to me that you were not aware > of the other option that is actually the recommended option. > > > Or that I do not know that that particular bit of Policy > > does not exist? That is precisely why the word "may" > > was used. > > I'm really getting tired of these sorts of assumptions > that everyone is a native English speaker. > > I am not. > > My understanding of "only" is that it means "there is not any other". > > Fancy interactions between the words "only" and "may" are beyond my > knowledge of the English language.
Yet another assumption. I taught English as a second language. I speak at least two others. I am very aware of the strangeness of the English language and write intentionally simple English. I deal with this on a daily basis with colleagues from multiple countries. > > I'm really getting tired of these sorts of assumptions. > > It would be much more useful to assume good intent on > > the part of others. > > This is an impossible proposition when it comes across as if the other > person is about to make an irreversible mistake, like adding an epoch > without first getting consensus on debian-devel. No, it is not impossible. You see it as impossible. I do not. And, this highlights the problem: you are assuming I do not know about the need for consensus. You have no idea what I'm planning to do next, and you have no idea what I do and do not know. Yet, you assume I am going to make a mistake. All I'm asking is that you find a way to do as many others do -- assume that people know what they are doing until proven otherwise. > cu > Adrian > -- Ciao, al ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Al Stone Debian Developer E-mail: a...@ahs3.net http://www.debian.org a...@debian.org ----------------------------------------------------------------------
