> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Julian Andres Klode [mailto:julian.kl...@gmail.com] Im Auftrag von
> Julian Andres Klode
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 23. März 2021 19:09
> An: Schulz, Reiner <r.sch...@dvz-mv.de>; 985...@bugs.debian.org
> Betreff: Re: Bug#985771: AW: Bug#985771: apt-auto-removal isn't run by
> kernel update
> 
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 03:10:31PM +0000, Schulz, Reiner wrote:
> > > This file includes:
> > > […]
> > > | /* Debug information:
> > > | # dpkg list:
> > > | rc  linux-image-4.19.0-10-amd64       4.19.132-1                    
> > > amd64        Linux
> > > 4.19 for 64-bit PCs (signed)
> > > | rc  linux-image-4.19.0-11-amd64       4.19.146-1                    
> > > amd64        Linux
> > > 4.19 for 64-bit PCs (signed)
> > > | rc  linux-image-4.19.0-12-amd64       4.19.152-1                    
> > > amd64        Linux
> > > 4.19 for 64-bit PCs (signed)
> > > | ii  linux-image-4.19.0-13-amd64       4.19.160-2                    
> > > amd64        Linux
> > > 4.19 for 64-bit PCs (signed)
> > > | ii  linux-image-4.19.0-14-amd64       4.19.171-2                    
> > > amd64        Linux
> > > 4.19 for 64-bit PCs (signed)
> > > | rc  linux-image-4.19.0-8-amd64        4.19.98-1+deb10u1             
> > > amd64
> > > Linux 4.19 for 64-bit PCs (signed)
> > > | rc  linux-image-4.19.0-9-amd64        4.19.118-2+deb10u1            
> > > amd64
> > > Linux 4.19 for 64-bit PCs (signed)
> > > | rc  linux-image-4.9.0-12-amd64        4.9.210-1                     
> > > amd64        Linux
> > > 4.9 for 64-bit PCs
> > > | rc  linux-image-4.9.0-8-amd64         4.9.144-3.1                   
> > > amd64        Linux
> > > 4.9 for 64-bit PCs
> > > | ii  linux-image-amd64                 4.19+105+deb10u9              
> > > amd64        Linux
> > > for 64-bit PCs (meta-package)
> > >
> > > so only the last two kernel 4.19.0-13 & -14 are installed, as it should
> > > be. The rest are removed and only config files remain (= "rc"). These
> > > remaining bits shouldn't take up too much space & you can remove them
> > > by calling "apt purge linux-image-…" on those rc packages.
> > >
> >
> > > > > It looks for me more like something depends/recommends those kernel
> > > > > packages though. Out of tree modules perhaps? Try "apt remove -s
> > > > > linux-image-4.19.0-13-amd64" perhaps that already shows something
> > > > > although a bit unlikely (as that would only react on hard 
> > > > > dependencies,
> > > > > while recommends, or-groups and virtual packages are more likely).
> > > >
> > > > [RS] 18 of the 23 Servers are virtual machines
> > > > And all have the some problem
> > >
> > > Are the kernel packages on those servers in 'rc' state, too? Or are they
> > > shown as ii (fully installed), hi (installed, but on hold) or i and some
> > > uppercase letter (various forms of partly installed) ?
> >
> > On one oft hem it looks like this:
> > ra1183:~# dpkg -l 'linux-image-*'
> > Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
> > | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-
> pend
> > |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
> > ||/ Name                                 Version            Architecture 
> > Description
> > +++-====================================-==================-
> ============-===================================
> > rc  linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64           3.16.51-3          amd64        
> > Linux 3.16 for
> 64-bit PCs
> > ii  linux-image-4.19.0-10-amd64          4.19.132-1         amd64        
> > Linux 4.19 for
> 64-bit PCs (signed)
> > un  linux-image-4.19.0-10-amd64-unsigned <none>             <none>       (no
> description available)
> > ii  linux-image-4.19.0-11-amd64          4.19.146-1         amd64        
> > Linux 4.19 for
> 64-bit PCs (signed)
> > un  linux-image-4.19.0-11-amd64-unsigned <none>             <none>       (no
> description available)
> > ii  linux-image-4.19.0-12-amd64          4.19.152-1         amd64        
> > Linux 4.19 for
> 64-bit PCs (signed)
> > un  linux-image-4.19.0-12-amd64-unsigned <none>             <none>       (no
> description available)
> > ii  linux-image-4.19.0-13-amd64          4.19.160-2         amd64        
> > Linux 4.19 for
> 64-bit PCs (signed)
> > un  linux-image-4.19.0-13-amd64-unsigned <none>             <none>       (no
> description available)
> > ii  linux-image-4.19.0-14-amd64          4.19.171-2         amd64        
> > Linux 4.19 for
> 64-bit PCs (signed)
> > un  linux-image-4.19.0-14-amd64-unsigned <none>             <none>       (no
> description available)
> > ii  linux-image-4.19.0-6-amd64           4.19.67-2+deb10u2  amd64        
> > Linux
> 4.19 for 64-bit PCs (signed)
> > un  linux-image-4.19.0-6-amd64-unsigned  <none>             <none>       (no
> description available)
> > ii  linux-image-4.19.0-8-amd64           4.19.98-1+deb10u1  amd64        
> > Linux
> 4.19 for 64-bit PCs (signed)
> > un  linux-image-4.19.0-8-amd64-unsigned  <none>             <none>       (no
> description available)
> > ii  linux-image-4.19.0-9-amd64           4.19.118-2+deb10u1 amd64        
> > Linux
> 4.19 for 64-bit PCs (signed)
> > un  linux-image-4.19.0-9-amd64-unsigned  <none>             <none>       (no
> description available)
> > ii  linux-image-4.9.0-7-amd64            4.9.110-3+deb9u2   amd64        
> > Linux 4.9
> for 64-bit PCs
> > ii  linux-image-amd64                    4.19+105+deb10u9   amd64        
> > Linux for 64-
> bit PCs (meta-package)
> >
> > I attached the removal scripts from this server
> >
> > ra1183:~# apt-get -s autoremove
> > Reading package lists... Done
> > Building dependency tree
> > Reading state information... Done
> > The following packages will be REMOVED:
> >   linux-image-4.19.0-6-amd64 linux-image-4.19.0-8-amd64 linux-image-4.9.0-
> 7-amd64
> > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 3 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> > Remv linux-image-4.19.0-6-amd64 [4.19.67-2+deb10u2]
> > Remv linux-image-4.19.0-8-amd64 [4.19.98-1+deb10u1]
> > Remv linux-image-4.9.0-7-amd64 [4.9.110-3+deb9u2]
> >
> > ra1183:~# apt-mark showmanual linux-image-\*
> > linux-image-4.19.0-10-amd64
> > linux-image-4.19.0-11-amd64
> > linux-image-4.19.0-12-amd64
> > linux-image-4.19.0-13-amd64
> > linux-image-4.19.0-14-amd64
> > linux-image-4.19.0-9-amd64
> > linux-image-amd64
> > ra1183:~# apt-mark showauto linux-image-\*
> > linux-image-4.19.0-6-amd64
> > linux-image-4.19.0-8-amd64
> > linux-image-4.9.0-7-amd64
> >
> > We do our updates via "apt-get -y --with-new-pkgs upgrade <packagelist>"
> but i cant find a hint if/how this would "mark" the packages
> >
> 
> This means: upgrade the entire system, and also install those packages.
> 
> Passing package names to install/upgrade/etc will mark them as manually
> installed if no other change was made (e.g. if the package is
> upgradable, it will upgrade them instead; so apt install foo && apt
> install foo for a package foo might first upgrade foo and the second
> command will mark it as manual).

OK, many thank for this explanation. you could close this ticket now.
Should i open a new Bug to the manpage of apt-get for include this explaintion 
of "marking" ?

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