Hi Christian

On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 02:31:44PM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
> Ola,
> 
> I followed the story of this bug because Thomas reflects in his bug
> report an opinion that is shared among many people, including, as far
> as I know, Joey Hess when he wrote the debconf protocol and the
> debconf package (which is why I CC Joey to this mail).

Thanks for your opinions.

> When it comes at notes like the one you're using in harden, I can cite
> the debconf-devel(7) man page:
> 
>        note  Rather than being a question per se, this datatype
>              indicates a note that can be displayed to the user. It
>              should be used only for important notes that the user
>              really should see, since debconf will go to great pains
>              to make sure the user sees it; halting the install for
>              them to press a key, and even mailing the note to them in
>              some cases. It???s best to use these only for warning
>              about very serious problems.
> 
> 
> As you see, depending on the way one sees things, one can't probably
> tell that this really fits the note used in harden.

I know. I have read through that before, and know that I in some way
am abusive.

> On the other hand, I must admit that, as you use a low priority to
> display the note, it is not *that* annoying and that calling it an
> "abuse" may be a little strong...:-)

Exactly my point.

> I think that the main intent hidden behind us (mostly
> translators....because we are the people who usually read all the
> debconf notes, as we have to translate them) chasing these "abuses" is
> to discourage too much people/maintainers to use them.
> 
> This is a kind of chicken and egg problem: if notes are really used
> only for very serious warnings, then a little number of people will be
> tempted to use them.
> 
> If they are used all the time, to warn admins about this and that or
> to display stuff that really pertains to README.Debian or NEWS.Debian,
> this is kind of an incitation to use them everywhere.
> 
> We won't probably insist much more about this topic as the point is
> certainly not having you do changes to your package without being
> convinced they are worth it. The main point is probably bringing
> another point of view on that topic....and, anyway, this is probably
> not the most important topic to deal with in Debian...:-)

:)

> The initial bug report may have sounded a bit "aggressive" to your
> eyes....which is not really surprising. Thomas, or myself (or some
> other people from time to time), send a lot of such bug reports and
> often lack time to adapt the bug report text to each and every case.

I fully understand that. I have filed such general bugs myself from time
to time.

> Hope this will help you getting the whole picture and, anyway, thanks
> in the name of all of us for the work you're doing to maintain your 
> package(s).

Thanks

// Ola

> 
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