Dear Andrey and ftpmasters,

I'm the primary uploader for this package.

Andrey Rahmatullin <w...@debian.org> writes:

> Package: ftp.debian.org
> Severity: normal
> X-Debbugs-Cc: nstee...@gmail.com
>
> This package wasn't updated for the Python 3.9 transition and removed from
> testing on 2021-03-07. The FTBFS with 3.9 bug isn't fixed upstream and
> there are upstream maintenance problems documented at
> https://github.com/jorgenschaefer/elpy/issues/1884
>

Thank you for reminding me about this upstream thread.  Yes, it's
definitely time that I post another follow-up message there.

Could we please defer this removal until at least 2022-03-07 as a
reasonable compromise?  I think it's uncharitable and ablist to put more
pressure than that on a project whose maintainer is suffering from hand
injury/tendonitis...these things take a long time to resolve--years, not
months--and if we're a project that truly believes in diversity,
empathy, and equal opportunity, then we must accommodate people who are
struggling.

I'm also not sure what would be a sensitive way to broach a deadline
upstream.  Sure, proposing a deadline and a plan can definitely be an
opportunity to show leadership, and in thinking about this possibility
I'm coming up with a concrete structure of goals/sprints to make
progress...but in doing this I would become the defacto upstream
maintainer, and that's something I know I won't be able to commit to
long-term.

Would it be enough to couch my involvement with some kind of disclaimer
like "I'm doing this temporarily with the objective of training my (and
Gaby Launay's) replacement"?  And also of course that I'm not the best
person for the job!  I confess that I'm not a good enough Python
programmer to just fix all the problems myself.

Yes, I agree that at some point, if the project is dead, then it should
be removed from Debian.  I also appreciate the notice that I haven't
done everything I could reasonably do for the success of Elpy.  You're
right (see above).


Thank you,
Nicholas

P.S. Never have I hidden a problem by disabling a test that was arguably
relevant to a Debian QA context.  I'm also strict about not uploading
anything that has outstanding issues.

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