On 2022-05-30 13:49:57 +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
> 3. i understand sebastinas' annoyance if they feel somebody is on a crusade
> against pipewire (but i haven't  followed any of the discussion except
> for this bug-report on the thread on debian-devel@ to acknowledge
> whether there is an actual crusade or not).

This is not a crusade against pipewire. An upgrade of vlc related to
piprewire was just breaking my audio system (not just vlc, but also
ogg123, and ogg123 remained broken even after removing pipewire).

In any case, if there is an intent to switch to the pipewire sound
server, this should be announced and things should be consistent
between the various Debian packages.

Moreover, users (including me) may currently want to stick with
pulseaudio for various reasons. In particular, pipewire/wireplumber
works poorly with headphones:

  https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/wireplumber/-/issues/267

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