Hey Fabio.

On Mon, 2022-08-15 at 11:43 +0200, Fabio Fantoni wrote:
> cinnamon 5.4 had a big muffin rebase after over 10 years, this help 
> performance and support of new features/technologies, wayland will
> need 
> works in other components and probably also another mutter rebase for
> better support anyway major of other things should be ok

Uagh... I mean I can understand that one wants to sort out old
technologies (metacity)... and needs new stuff (wayland)...

But I can also quite understand the criticism from the reporter of the
issue you've mentioned below.

Seems quite some time since cinnamon got real new power features and
detailed ways to customise the DE.
Now it looses the theming, or at least some important parts of it.
Feels a bit like the unfortunate GNOME way.


> about windows decoration is one of the things changed in newer mutter
> and now is managed by gtk3 theme chosen, this probably can help you: 
> https://github.com/linuxmint/cinnamon/issues/10848

I'll see whether I can make it more usable via the CSS thingy proposed
there.

But with the default theme that we have now, the window title filed
seems unnecessarily big[0], and the colours for focused/non-focused
also seem to be rather problematic.


> so is probably something that should be added/changed in the theme,

Are you going to adapt something for that in the default theme shipped
by Debian?
Or perhaps package some further themes for more choice?


> if 
> instead there are bugs related to muffin/cinnamon itself try to see
> on 
> open issues on muffin and cinnamon github and link it here if you
> found 
> one or more related

In principle I'd like to see back the option to select which buttons I
see in the window title (like disabling the left icon that appears now
in the new version and opens the context menu, or re-ordering the
minimiz/maximize/etc. buttons on the right)...
... but upstream doesn't seem to be too open for such feature requests
(or actually one should call it regressions, since it worked
previously).


Thanks btw. for your maintenance efforts.


Cheers,
Chris.

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