On 2023-01-10 09:36:04 [+0100], Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
> Hello Sebastian,
Hi Helge,

> On Mon, Jan 09, 2023 at 09:38:31PM +0100, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> Sorry, I was really tired yesterday evening and just wanted to send a
> short "ack". 

no worries. Just warning before I get all the credit ;)

> > Oki. That means if I intend to upload xz-utils to Buster with translated
> > man-pages than I need to check with you first?
> 
> Let's separate this:
> For buster I don't think anyone will care anymore.
> 
> For bookworm: Yes, see:
> https://wiki.debian.org/PackageTransition
> Case #9: xz-utils is B, manpages-fr / manpages-de is A
> 
> For some reason I did not realize this, it is now prepared for
> manpages-l10n for the next release (slated next week, pending 
> upstream release). I did not create a bug for this (but please 
> do so, if you think it is necessary).
> 
> For your update you should use as version "<< 4.1.0-1".
> (and remember to put it in for both manpages-de and manpages-fr)

Okay, will do.

> This will note prevent this bug, but see below for this case. However,
> it will fix peoples systems not using backports and upgrading from
> bullseye to bookworm after release.
> 
> And this also explains why this bug was not seen on our side: During
> this time maintainership both for upstream and for the Debian package
> transitioned to new persons. And when I got responsible, I simply did
> not realise this one was forgotten.
> 
> For bullseye:
> Do you want to publish a backport for xz-utils? Then it gets
> complicated.

I planned to upload the latest v5.2.X release to bullseye. Code wise it
contains only fixes. Feature wise it contains more translations. There is
a bug open in xz-utils that the man-page for xz vanished in xz-utils. It
was provided by manpages-de but the release in Bullseye does not have
it.
The release team does not know about it and I have no idea if they allow
so I'm checking with you first before i collides somehow with manpages-fr
;)

> > > Technically, we treat debian-unstable and debian-backport as if they
> > > were two different distributions (say arch and fedora). 
> > > 
> > > What got lost (and I will investigate this later this week, maybe
> > > tomorrow) are the correct package relations. I have a vague idea, but
> > > I will check. And the next upload (including the one to bpo) will have
> > > the correct ones.
> > 
> > Since "recently" xz provides translated man-pages and sid is not
> > affected. My understaning is that the bpo version of man-pages gets a
> > breaks statement against xz. If so that would >= 5.2.7.
> > Should I reassing the bug to manpages-l10n or do you do it yourself?
> 
> Will be done, see above. And given that upstream got the translated man 
> pages in April 2020, I understand the quotes around "recently".
> 
> From your changelog I gathered the version "(<< 5.3.3alpha-0.0)".

The man-pages started to appear in 5.2.7 which I uploaded to unstable at
the time. It was later superseded by the 5.3-beta series which become
5.4 (non-beta) and was cooked at the same time in experimental.

…
> As a side note:
> We have man page translations for several other languages as well.
> Over time, they will disappear, so I suggest to move them to xz-utils
> as well. I can send the po files to you and inform the translators
> about this, if you want. Then you can include them in your next upload
> (to fix bug "-1") as well.

I would forward them to upstream if there is anything. Right now there
are man pages in ro/de/fr.

> Greetings
> 
>            Helge
> 

Sebastian

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