Am Donnerstag, dem 16.02.2023 um 18:37 +0200 schrieb Adrian Bunk:
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 12:05:41AM +0100, Daniel Leidert wrote:
> > ...
> > Reasons:
> > ...
> > - - the change makes it impossible to create filesystems with this version 
> > of
> >   e2fsprogs and then run a grub-install from a target system that does not 
> > cope
> >   with that feature; basically breaking the debootstrap method of installing
> >   Debian or Ubuntu onto a server (violating #4 of the Debian social 
> > contract)
> > ...
> > Instead, turning on this feature should be postponed for the next release 
> > cycle
> > where a proper transition can be done.
> > ...
> 
> Daniel, you are contradicting yourself when claiming that a change that 
> would allegedly violate the Debian social contract could be done in the 
> next release cycle.

Actually, I'm not. I have never said that I reject the introduction of
that change. But I reject it in the current situation, and I reject the
way it is handled. And if you read the whole report and the discussion
I was involved in, then maybe you can understand that I perceive it
that both, Steve and Theodore, were very well with the idea of breaking
with Bullseye and Ubuntu and other systems, where grub doesn't support
that feature, right now and "just like that". And I think this is a
violation of #4. I have also written in [1] how I think the transition
should be handled (IMO), especially given the fact that grub has no
upstream release with a fix yet.

[1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1030939#108

Regards, Daniel

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