Hi Lance,

I'd been holding off installing Debian 12 because I routinely rely on X11 for remote access. Sorry to hear the the X11<->Wayland wrapper is not quite ready for prime time.

Linus was, as usual, spot on in his lampooning the lack of binary compatibility in Linux user space. While it might be understandable that not all Fedora/Redhat binaries run under Ubuntu/Debian, it's inexcusable that old binaries will not run on the same distro's latest release on the same arch.
This the main reason why Linux can't break into the mainstream desktop apps.

For Debian 11, fixing quickplot will likely involve simply comparing libsndfile-1.0.28 with Debian's 1.0.31 to identify the "breaking change" and modifying either quickplot or sndfile to fix the problem.

I'll send you a patch to quickplot in the coming weeks if I end up changing it, leaving you to wrestle with the GTK3 issues unique to Debian 12.

- brent

P.S.  Are you aware of any other graphing package that accepts ASCII numeric input from a pipe?
(i.e. a viable alternative to quickplot?)


Lance Arsenault wrote:
Hi Brent,

5.  I forgot to mention.  I'm using Debian 12 with GNOME and on that, both libsndfile and GTK3 break quickplot; though "apt install quickplot" works, but it installs a broken program.  I can't test your fix very easily on my system.  I'd rather refactor quickplot than downgrade my OS. (ya, I know, VMs, but I worry about slow displays and lots of unknowns ...; and VMs turn me off in general) GTK3 uses a Wayland Display (on Debain 12 GNOME) and the X11/wayland wrapper stuff seems to be broken. You see, quickplot uses raw libX11 code to get more speed than that is gotten from the cairo/x11 wrapper crap in GDK (GTK3), on older systems.   My refactoring will use WaylandDisplay and not libX11, and that promises to be much faster than libX11 ever was.   Wayland should be better and faster, but it has been a long time coming; and has totally broken lots of my code. GdkWaylandDisplay (GTK3 sub-library) is now giving me pain... I feel that the GTK3 and GTK4 developers are sadists.

Linus is talking about my pain in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pzl1B7nB9Kc


Thanks again for your help.  Very helpful feedback.

cheers
lance


On Sun, Jul 9, 2023 at 1:29 PM Lance Arsenault <lance...@vt.edu <mailto:lance...@vt.edu>> wrote:


    Hi Brent,

    1. First thank you for submitting this bug ticket.  I'm not sure
    if I have write access to the debian bug system, but we'll see.

    2.  I'm the sole downstream developer of quickplot.  quickplot as
    distributed by Debian GNU/Linux was pretty cool stuff.  It
    currently has some package dependencies that have broken it.  In
    particular, libsndfile and GTK3.  And so, quickplot is in need of
    refactoring, maybe dropping the libsndfile dependency and removing
    deprecated GTK3 API usage.  As it turns out, I just happened to
    have released (alpha) a much larger software package that kind-of
    needs a "quickplot" like tool to help my current work.  So I need
    to fix quickplot for my own use.  I have not used it in a while.

    3. I looked at your bio.  We seem to have a little bit of overlap
    in professional interests,  my CV is at
    http://107.191.96.171/cv.html , sorry it's http without https yet.

    4. My new alpha software package is at
    https://github.com/lanceman2/quickstream , you might find it
    interesting.

    cheers
    lance


    On Fri, Jul 7, 2023 at 11:30 PM Brent Roman <br...@mbari.org
    <mailto:br...@mbari.org>> wrote:
    >
    > Package: quickplot
    > Version: 1.0.1~rc-1+b3
    >
    > Any attempt to read an input file or pipe fails with the error
    message:
    >
    > Failed to read file /home/brent/quickplot/plot.dat: lseek() failed
    >
    > A workaround is the link the quickplot binary with the upstream
    > libsndfile-1.0.28
    > rather than the libsndfile-1.0.31 packaged with Debian 11
    >
    > For instance, after installing libsndfile-1.0.28 in /usr/local/lib,
    > quickplot
    > will work if started with this shell script:
    >
    > #!/bin/sh #force linkage with our local version of libsndfile
    > # (1.0.28 rather than Debian's 1.0.31)
    > LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH exec
    /usr/bin/quickplot "$@"
    >
    > I am using Debian 11 on x86 (tested both 32 or 64-bit) with various
    > Linux 5.x kernels.
    >
    > --
    >   Brent Roman                                   MBARI
    >   Software Engineer               Tel: (831) 775-1808
    >   mailto:br...@mbari.org <mailto:br...@mbari.org>
    http://www.mbari.org/~brent
    >



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