On Wed, 13 Sept 2023 at 10:44, Ian Campbell <i...@debian.org> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2023-09-12 at 23:13 +0200, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> > On Mon, 11 Sept 2023 at 15:57, Daniel Gröber <d...@darkboxed.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Luca,
> > >
> > > On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 01:06:06PM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> > > > > I want to question whether removing these conffiles is a good idea at
> > > > > all. I'm probably one of the few people that actually muck around in 
> > > > > there
> > > > > but it seems like this is going to break things for any users that do.
> > > >
> > > > As far as I understand dpkg's conffile machinery should recognize if
> > > > you changed anything, and leave it in place. Upstream moved the
> > > > default ones to /usr, so we just follow what they do.
> > >
> > > Right. Think of an admin having to adjust these config files though:
> > > previously they could just `editor /etc/iproute2/rt_tables` and get on 
> > > with
> > > things. Now anyone needing to do that will have to do a doubletake, figure
> > > out why /etc/iproute2 is missing, realize that it's at /usr/lib/iproute2
> > > now, copy that over and finally edit.
> > >
> > > Is that friction really warrented to cater to a specialized niche 
> > > use-case?
> > >
> > > Please consider overriding upstream's decision here.
> >
> > Yes, it is warranted, both because it's exactly the correct behaviour
> > for a package, and also because we are certainly not spending time and
> > resources to go against upstream choices, especially when they are the
> > right choices.
>
> What is the plan for handling updates? AIUI we've lost the dpkg
> conffile handling but it doesn't look like it's been replaced by
> anything (e.g. like using ucf to prompt when an update happened
> perhaps?).

Same as everything else that uses drop-ins and hermetic-usr since
forever. No more pointless noise and wasting time solving conflicts by
hand in whitespace changes, comment typos and so on.

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