On Tue, 23 May 2006, Josip Rodin wrote:
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 10:27:04PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
Could you please set the default -rmargin for mail (*tmp/mutt-*) to 70
columns, as prescribed by the Netiquette? With the current default of
77, lines quoted multiple times by users of lesser editors/mailers
without proper reformatting capabilities tend to wrap around nastily
pretty fast.
That's a slippery slope. What about the threads where there are more than
five quotes (5 * "> " is 80-10 = 70 characters)?
70 columns is just the most often mentioned number. RFC1855 mentions it
in a different context while not giving an exact number for mail, but most
Usenet and e-mail FAQs say that directly. (It's the most often used
value, but not the only one -- a glance at Google shows a case of "72" and
one of "65-70", for example).
I too would say that 70 columns is a bit on the paranoid side as in
well-behaved communities like Debian lists people know to delete
irrelevant parts and thus it's unlikely to have 5 lines of quotations;
though, in general, it doesn't sound like a totally unreasonable value.
Certainly, it's better than 77 (current jstar's default) which breaks
during the _2nd_ quoting. 77 is good for non-mail text and thus it
probably should be left as the global default, but, as the config file
allows specifying different values for different file types, there is no
reason not to adjust it.
Besides, the line wrapping settings (margins and wordwrap) don't affect text
that is already entered. Since you can't automagically reduce the line width
of the quoted mails, you could only reduce the width of your lines and make
your own ^KJ function more efficient, but you still have to do that each
time you get a new mail with "broken" quotes.
I can't? Well, it works just fine in all mailers I use: mutt+jstar,
Thunderbird, pine. For example:
> Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do eiusmod
> tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam,
> quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo
> consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse
> cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat
> non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est
> laborum.
^B in jstar / ^K^J in joe =>
> Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do
> eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut
> enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris
> nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in
> reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat
> nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident,
> sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum.
Everything seems to work perfectly for quite a number of different quoting
styles.
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