package: pine
severity: minor
version: 4.64-1

Hello!

Some weeks ago, I sent a request to the pine upstream authors for the
permission to release pine as a binary package for
<http://www.debian-unofficial.org>. My idea was to use the modifications
for the pine source code that you introduced with the current Debian
package (4.64-1), so that I would only have to change some files in the
debian subdir (new changelog entry, no pine-tracker package, etc). Well,
upstream grants me the permission, but wants two minor issues to be
fixed in the source code (please see below) before. As I mentioned
before, I do not want to do any changes to the source code outside the
debian directory.

Now I would like to ask you if you could fix these two small issues in
the Debian package and release a new revision, so that I could use this
for the binary package for d-u.o!

Of course I will inform the upstream author about my plans.

Thank you very much!

Cheers, 
Fabian

-------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
> Von: Hugh Sheets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> An: Greffrath Fabian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Kopie: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Betreff: Re: Pine license change (debian-unofficial.org)
> Datum: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 14:59:34 -0700 (PDT)
> 
> Fabian, we have a license for you.
> 
> In reviewing your changes, our engineer had the following comments:
> > 
> > I question the following changes:
> >
> > In pine-4.64/imap/src/osdep/unix/env_unix.h MANDATORYLOCKPROT is set to 
> > 0600 from the correct 0666.  This is discussed in:
> >       http://www.washington.edu/imap/IMAP-FAQs/index.html#5.5
> >
> > Shared mailbox files (e.g., helpdesk) depend upon the locks being 0666
> > instead of 0600.
> >
> > In pine-4.64/imap/src/osdep/unix/os_slx.h
> >       #include <time.h>
> > is added.  time.h is already included three lines higher up in the
> > source code.  Why is this second included needed?
> >
> 
> I want to call your attention to line item 2.4 in the license.  You will
> need to add an "N" to the version number of a modified Pine you
> distribute.
> 
> Thanks for your patience and don't hesitate to contact us with any
> questions.
> 
> Hugh Sheets
> Manager, Messaging Solutions
> Technology Engineering Group Distributed Systems
> University of Washington
> 
> 
> -------------------------------------
> The University of Washington
> Pine MESSAGING SOFTWARE Distribution License
> 

(...) 120 kB of license and legal notice, including complete
Debian .diff file

> End of Pine License and Legal Notices
> 
> 
> On Wed, 7 Jun 2006, Greffrath Fabian wrote:
> 
> > Hello Hugh!
> > 
> > I did not contact you for quite some time now, hope you still remember
> > me and what we already talked about...
> > 
> > I would like to ask you about the progress of the pine license change. 
> > You told me that there might be some success in the early new year (this
> > was in 2005) and now half of 2006 is over without any visible changes.
> > 
> > I would like to offer you some kind of compromise:
> > Maybe you know that there is already a pine source package with a
> > separate diff-file in Debian, which users may download and compile on
> > their own computer. Although the modifications which are implemented by
> > the diff-file are quite minor, there are no binary packages for pine in
> > Debian, because the (let's call it 'old') license forbids to
> > redistribute modified versions. So far, so good.
> > 
> > Please allow me to distribute this modified version of Pine as a binary
> > package. I am talking about the same package that Debian users will get
> > when downloading and compiling pine on their own. Of course I will make
> > clear in the documentation that this version of pine is not original and
> > that they should report bugs to us, not you (Maybe you have some
> > paraphrases prepared for situations like this. English is not my native
> > language).
> > 
> > To make clear what changes to the pine source code we are talking about,
> > please have a look at the following diff-file:
> > http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/p/pine/pine_4.64-1.diff.gz
> > 
> > (This affects the version of pine currently in Debian. In the oldstable
> > distribution of Debian there is still version 4.44 of pine.)
> > 
> > Thank you very much!
> > 
> > Nice Gretings,
> > Fabian
> > 



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