On Tue, Nov 25, 2025 at 11:10:05PM +0800, Blair Noctis wrote:
> Control: severity -1 important
> 
> After a few givebacks, official architectures all pass (minus riscv64 the
> buildds of which are too slow to not have timeouts, so I skipped tests on it
> in -3). This further confirms my suspicion that the failures were indeed due
> to concurrency problems.

Well, sorry but I don't think downgrading this bug is ok. Flaky tests
are RC since trixie. See my build history, on AWS instances of type
c7a.large and m7a.large (both amd64), which incidentally have 2 CPUs,
nothing special:

Status: successful  fish_4.2.1-2_amd64-20251122T152823.838Z
Status: successful  fish_4.2.1-2_amd64-20251122T152828.212Z
Status: failed      fish_4.2.1-2_amd64-20251122T152835.065Z
Status: successful  fish_4.2.1-2_amd64-20251122T153152.998Z
Status: failed      fish_4.2.1-2_amd64-20251122T153156.907Z
Status: failed      fish_4.2.1-2_amd64-20251122T153200.267Z
Status: failed      fish_4.2.1-2_amd64-20251122T153250.171Z
Status: failed      fish_4.2.1-2_amd64-20251122T153256.782Z
Status: failed      fish_4.2.1-2_amd64-20251122T153258.062Z
Status: failed      fish_4.2.1-2_amd64-20251122T153259.916Z
Status: failed      fish_4.2.1-2_amd64-20251122T153300.655Z
Status: failed      fish_4.2.1-2_amd64-20251122T153300.063Z
Status: successful  fish_4.2.1-2_amd64-20251122T153301.720Z
Status: failed      fish_4.2.1-2_amd64-20251122T153302.716Z
Status: failed      fish_4.2.1-2_amd64-20251122T153308.287Z
Status: failed      fish_4.2.1-2_amd64-20251122T153410.511Z
Status: failed      fish_4.2.1-2_amd64-20251122T153447.462Z
Status: failed      fish_4.2.1-2_amd64-20251122T153532.887Z
Status: failed      fish_4.2.1-2_amd64-20251122T153541.244Z
Status: failed      fish_4.2.1-2_amd64-20251122T153607.111Z
Status: failed      fish_4.2.1-2_amd64-20251122T153721.453Z
Status: failed      fish_4.2.1-2_amd64-20251122T153726.299Z
Status: failed      fish_4.2.1-2_amd64-20251123T041940.252Z
Status: successful  fish_4.2.1-2_amd64-20251124T041935.168Z
Status: failed      fish_4.2.1-2_amd64-20251125T041741.873Z

In my opinion, a package which fails to build 80% of the time may
never be considered suitable for release, and if our current policy
says it is ok to downgrade this, maybe it's time to change policy.

Question for Paul: What needs to happen so that people stop
downgrading bugs in cases like this one?

Thanks.

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