On Sat, Jan 10, 2026 at 09:21:43PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> After sleeping about this for a few nights and updating again to -4, I 
> now have the following:
> 
> |root@swivel-sid-buildd-amd64-q6ep:/srv# mkpasswd --hash=yescrypt foobar
> |$y$j9T$itVnlTtTBYo6Q2bWxDWxp.$iTCN.Ho/RhgFmNRMi7Un1zWjCQH/wEb1x2HD16pAbF8
> |root@swivel-sid-buildd-amd64-q6ep:/srv# useradd aust
> |root@swivel-sid-buildd-amd64-q6ep:/srv# echo 'aust:!' | chpasswd --encrypted
> |chpasswd: (line 1, user aust) invalid password hash
> |chpasswd: error detected, changes ignored
> |root@swivel-sid-buildd-amd64-q6ep:/srv# echo 'aust:*' | chpasswd --encrypted
> |root@swivel-sid-buildd-amd64-q6ep:/srv# echo 
> 'aust:!$y$j9T$itVnlTtTBYo6Q2bWxDWxp.$iTCN.Ho/RhgFmNRMi7Un1zWjCQH/wEb1x2HD16pAbF8'
>  | chpasswd --encrypted
> |root@swivel-sid-buildd-amd64-q6ep:/srv# echo 
> 'aust:*$y$j9T$itVnlTtTBYo6Q2bWxDWxp.$iTCN.Ho/RhgFmNRMi7Un1zWjCQH/wEb1x2HD16pAbF8'
>  | chpasswd --encrypted
> |chpasswd: (line 1, user aust) invalid password hash
> |chpasswd: error detected, changes ignored
> |root@swivel-sid-buildd-amd64-q6ep:/srv#
> 
> ! => not accepted
> * => accepted
> !(valid hash) => accepted
> *(valid hash) => not accepted
> 
> Is this really intended? Isnt this introducing semantics that were never 
> intended? Ths TUHS Mailing List has basically confirmed that ! and * 
> just are strings that can never come out of hashing a valid password.
> 
> Greetings
> Marc

So, just to be clear, you think all would be fine if we accept * followed
by anything, and ! not followed by anything?

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