Hi all,

Yes, debundling Kokkos from Trilinos is the sensible way forward.

I only have some minor concerns that we will need to ensure that
Trilinos still builds against external Kokkos before uploading a new
Kokkos version.

Best,
Matthias



On Sun, Mar  8, 2026, at 16:38 CDT, [email protected] wrote:

> Hi,
>
> there was a meeting of the Kokkos working group taking care about
> building and packaging in December.
> The Kokkos Team would prefer a package provided independently of
> Trilinos.
> https://github.com/kokkos/development/blob/cb4f1a1b45cdfaf5ae20d792cd42750ef50aea76/meeting_notes/wg-build-packaging/2025_12_16_notes.md?plain=1#L50
>
> The main reasons are projects depending on Kokkos without a Trilinos
> dependency and the development outside of the Trilinos ecosystem.
>
> Are there concerns or objections regarding a separation of the Kokkos
> package from the Trilinos package by the Debian Trilinos maintainers
> and uploaders?
>
> Best
> Nils

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