|Severity: important|

Follow-up Note: This bug remains completely unresolved and has progressed into the Debian 13.5.0 release, where it now causes severe log regressions and configuration blockers.


When installing Debian 13.5.0 via the Live Image (KDE/Calamares), the lack of an initialized systemd-timesyncd or default network time synchronization causes a severe RTC/UTC offset on systems where the hardware clock tracks local time.

On first boot, this breaks 'apt update' due to expired/invalid certificates. Furthermore, once a user manually installs a tool like 'ntpsec-ntpdate' to fix the clock, the sudden time-step causes a chaotic 7-hour backward timeline regression in the system history logs.

The full behavior from the initial installer environment layout to the post-install time correction can be explicitly observed in this excerpt from /var/log/apt/history.log on Debian 13.5.0:

Start-Date: 2026-05-18  04:27:51
Commandline: apt-get -o APT::Status-Fd=4 -o APT::Keep-Fds::=5 -o APT::Keep-Fds::=6 -q -y --no-remove install grub-efi-amd64 Install: mokutil:amd64 (0.7.2-1, automatic), grub-efi-amd64-unsigned:amd64 (2.12-9+deb13u2, automatic), grub-efi-amd64:amd64 (2.12-9+deb13u2), shim-helpers-amd64-signed:amd64 (1+15.8+1, automatic), grub-efi-amd64-signed:amd64 (1+2.12+9+deb13u2, automatic), grub-efi-amd64-bin:amd64 (2.12-9+deb13u2, automatic), grub2-common:amd64 (2.12-9+deb13u2, automatic), efibootmgr:amd64 (18-2, automatic), shim-signed:amd64 (1.47+15.8-1, automatic), shim-signed-common:amd64 (1.47+15.8-1, automatic), shim-unsigned:amd64 (15.8-1, automatic)
End-Date: 2026-05-18  04:27:56

Start-Date: 2026-05-18  04:28:24
Commandline: apt-get --yes purge live-boot
Purge: live-boot:amd64 (1:20250815~deb13u1), live-task-kde:amd64 (13.0.4), live-task-base:amd64 (13.0.4)
End-Date: 2026-05-18  04:28:25

Start-Date: 2026-05-18  04:28:26
Commandline: apt-get --yes purge live-boot-initramfs-tools
Purge: live-boot-initramfs-tools:amd64 (1:20250815~deb13u1)
End-Date: 2026-05-18  04:28:39

Start-Date: 2026-05-18  04:28:41
Commandline: apt-get --yes purge live-config
Purge: live-config:amd64 (11.0.5)
End-Date: 2026-05-18  04:28:42

Start-Date: 2026-05-18  04:28:43
Commandline: apt-get --yes purge live-config-systemd
Purge: live-config-systemd:amd64 (11.0.5)
End-Date: 2026-05-18  04:28:44

Start-Date: 2026-05-18  04:28:45
Commandline: apt-get --yes purge calamares-settings-debian
Purge: calamares-settings-debian:amd64 (13.0.13-1)
End-Date: 2026-05-18  04:28:46

Start-Date: 2026-05-18  04:29:01
Commandline: apt-get --yes autoremove
Remove: live-boot-doc:amd64 (1:20250815~deb13u1), libyaml-cpp0.8:amd64 (0.8.0+dfsg-7), squashfs-tools:amd64 (1:4.6.1-1), live-config-doc:amd64 (11.0.5), keyutils:amd64 (1.6.3-6), live-tools:amd64 (1:20240525), user-setup:amd64 (1.107), cryptsetup:amd64 (2:2.7.5-2), pkexec:amd64 (126-2), calamares:amd64 (3.3.14-1)
End-Date: 2026-05-18  04:29:03

Start-Date: 2026-05-18  11:31:54
Commandline: packagekit role='update-packages'
Requested-By: mazzare (1000)
Install: linux-image-6.12.88+deb13-amd64:amd64 (6.12.88-1, automatic)
Upgrade: libnghttp2-14:amd64 (1.64.0-1.1, 1.64.0-1.1+deb13u1), libpostproc58:amd64 (7:7.1.3-0+deb13u1, 7:7.1.4-0+deb13u1), linux-image-amd64:amd64 (6.12.86-1, 6.12.88-1), libavcodec61:amd64 (7:7.1.3-0+deb13u1, 7:7.1.4-0+deb13u1), libavfilter10:amd64 (7:7.1.3-0+deb13u1, 7:7.1.4-0+deb13u1), libavutil59:amd64 (7:7.1.3-0+deb13u1, 7:7.1.4-0+deb13u1), libswscale8:amd64 (7:7.1.3-0+deb13u1, 7:7.1.4-0+deb13u1), libopenjp2-7:amd64 (2.5.3-2.1~deb13u1, 2.5.3-2.1~deb13u2), libswresample5:amd64 (7:7.1.3-0+deb13u1, 7:7.1.4-0+deb13u1), libavformat61:amd64 (7:7.1.3-0+deb13u1, 7:7.1.4-0+deb13u1), linux-libc-dev:amd64 (6.12.86-1, 6.12.88-1)
End-Date: 2026-05-18  11:32:24

Start-Date: 2026-05-18  12:01:45
Commandline: apt-get install wget
Requested-By: mazzare (1000)
Install: wget:amd64 (1.25.0-2)
End-Date: 2026-05-18  12:01:46

Start-Date: 2026-05-18  05:15:33  <-- Chronological reversal occurs here upon ntpdate forcing network step
Commandline: apt install ntpsec-ntpdate
Requested-By: mazzare (1000)
Install: ntpsec-ntpdate:amd64 (1.2.3+dfsg1-8), python3-ntp:amd64 (1.2.3+dfsg1-8, automatic), ntpsec-ntpdig:amd64 (1.2.3+dfsg1-8, automatic)
End-Date: 2026-05-18  05:15:34

Start-Date: 2026-05-18  05:28:58
Commandline: apt-get install firefox
Requested-By: mazzare (1000)
Install: firefox:amd64 (150.0.3~build1)
End-Date: 2026-05-18  05:29:02

Please include systemd-timesyncd by default in the Calamares environment configuration to ensure proper time stepping upon network acquisition before target environment finalization.

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