On Tue, 2026-06-16 at 08:42 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> > On Mon, 15 Jun 2026 16:55:11 +0300 Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > 
> > > 4-clause BSD with the advertising clause has always been
> > > recognized
> > > as DFSG-free (and is also listed at [1]):
> > > 
> > >   All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this
> > >   software must display the following acknowledgement: This
> > > product
> > >   includes software developed by the <copyright holder>.
> 
> Le Tue, Jun 16, 2026 at 12:07:07AM +0200, Francesco Poli a écrit :
> > 
> > Yes, although it is obnoxious, deprecated, problematic and
> > almost everywhere recommended against, it has been traditionally
> > considered acceptable with respect to the DFSG.
> 
> I searched for "All advertising materials mentioning features" in the
> Debian sources and it looks like the number of different copyright
> holders for which we accepted software under the 4-clause BSD may
> be not so large.
> 
> So maybe the DFSG team could decide that we gave an exception to the
> DFSG to these copyright holders only, that we note that it pushes on
> our
> users the duty to check the copyright file of every package they use
> in
> case they want to mention them in advertisements, and that because
> this
> is too unreasonable we will not grant exceptions anymore to new
> packages, for the 4-clause BSD and for any other similar license?
> 
> We could also make a Lintian tag that asks the maintainer to make a
> comment in debian/copyright for UCSC Berkeley-licensed code that the
> advertisement clause has been revoked on January 31st 2012.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_licenses#3-clause_license_(%22BSD_License_2.0%22,_%22Revised_BSD_License%22,_%22New_BSD_License%22,_or_%22Modified_BSD_License%22)
> 
> Lastly we could ask politely to the other copyright holders if they
> were willing to make the same change.

This seems an excellent idea - I can really get on board with it.

Thanks,
Andrew McMillan

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