Hi,

short introduction (for Matthew mainly): hal has been modified to rely on
acpi-support if the package is installed (cf #381708). Now when
gnome-power-manager is installed, acpi-support's scripts do nothing and
thus the change doesn't have the expected result. That's the point where
Sjoerd cced me and asked:

On Wed, 23 Aug 2006, Sjoerd Simons wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 01:05:39AM +0200, Clément Stenac wrote:
> > acpi-support detects if gnome-power-manager ok its kde counterpart is
> > running, and if so, will disable its sleep/hibernate scripts, unless you
> > call the scripts with the "force" argument.
> > 
> > I don't know exactly who should do what, either you add the force
> > argument, or acpi-support changes its behavior, or g-p-m does
> > something,...
> 
> Hopefully the acpi-support maintainer can tell us something more about this ;)
> I've cc'd him in this mail.
> 
> I suppose the sleep/hibernate scripts are disabled so there is no conflict 
> with
> a power-manager and the scripts. Although i don't think detecting random
> power-managers is actually scalable... 
> 
> At some point we really need a good generic power-management structure in
> debian, adding support for all kinds of programs/scripts to the hal scripts
> just doesn't scale :(

I'm maintaining acpi-support but I'm really not much involved in all this
stuff and I can't answer you. However Matthew, the upstream author of
acpi-support can enlighten us on the right way to go forward.

When I packaged acpi-support, Matthew made me clear that it's only a
temporary hack to make things work until a better solution is worked out.
As such I'm wondering if it's wise to make hal rely on acpi-support at
all...

Matthew, what do you think? Can you also tell us how Ubuntu is going
forward on that front?

Cheers,
-- 
Raphaël Hertzog

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