severity 291426 serious
thanks

Hello

On Fri, Mar 11, 2005 at 11:51:34PM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> * Ola Lundqvist ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050311 23:15]:
> > On Fri, Mar 11, 2005 at 06:45:44PM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote:
> > > during todays IRCing, upstream of vserver tools was quite concerned
> > > about the state of the vserver-tools inside of Debian. For one of my
> > > packages, I would consider this alone as reason enough to do something.
> 
> > And I have done a couple of things. Uploaded to experimental is one.
> 
> Yes, I've seen that. I'm quite happy with that. I just had a bad
> feeling, and considered it is better to write mail to you, than to just
> consider for myself.

:)

> 
> > > So, my question is of course, which options are there, and is there a
> > > way to help you? I Cced some people to this mail whom I've seen active
> > > in some way (submitting bug reports or similar issues) and who're
> > > connect with debian, and the upstream, for discussions (or in case I
> > > need some proper cluebatting :).
> 
> > There are a couple of outstanding issues.
> 
> > > Currently, we have the stable version of vserver-utils and -patch in
> > > Debian. These have the downside that they don't support 2.6-kernels -
> > > however, on some archs there will be no 2.4-kernels.
> 
> > What arches do only support 2.6?
> 
> I'm quite sure of sparc, because kernel-upgrades become a real pain
> (with woody, there is only 2.4 available, and we need an transitional
> kernel on one subarch). For the rest, I need to check. It seems that
> hppa is about to drop, powerpc is also considering to do it.

Ok. Good to know.

> > > Also, we have some bugs that I consider ugly enough the we should try to
> > > fix them before release, especially speaking about (some of them might
> > > even be considered as RC-buggy):
> > > 
> > > #291426: util-vserver doesn't work if compiled on a !ctx-kernel
> 
> > Yes this is a real issue but I do not think the development branch fix 
> > this, or?
> 
> I am not sure. However, even if not, this should be fixed. Perhaps
> upgrading to serious, and raising this question in the bug log might get
> some help from the BSP this weekend? (And, perhaps one might say yes, as
> the experimental package on alpha seems to work, see #297787 - but of
> course, the user might have compiled it by himself.

This is a problem with autobuilding. If the user have a ctx enabled kernel it
works just fine when compiling. Upgrading to serious now. 

> > > #297787: util-vserver: Broken with 1.9.4 and above on Alpha
> > Yes this is an issue. On the other hand util-vserver from the development 
> > branch
> > do not compile on some arches, see #297806. You filed that one yourself. :)
> 
> I know. I can remember my bug reports pretty well, even if I file them.

Well I dont always. It is so damn many packages. ;)

I think this is a gcc bug actually.

> > > #197051: vservers can capture tcp data using pcap
> > As far as I know the development branch do not fix this issue. I may be
> > mistaken.
> 
> I have heared that it is possible to use ping inside a vserver now even
> without the net-raw-capability, so that it is no longer necessary to
> distribute it to the clients.

Ok.

> > > #202954: vserver: mount --bind: permission denid
> > Not release critical in any way.
> 
> Of course not. Just "would be much nicer if it's fixed". I'm not only
> listing things that may be RC, but things where I would be much happier
> if they're fixed for sarge.

Of course.

> > > #258038: util-vserver: vproc security util for 1.9.x vserver patch missing
> > This is 2.6 kernel specific, or at least development branch specific.
> > 
> > > What is not explicitly listed here is the inability to work together
> > > with 2.6-kernels.
> > Yes.
> > 
> > > So, I personally feel that it would be nice to get the kernel-patch for
> > > 2.6, and more current vserver-utils uploaded into unstable (where the
> > > kernel-patch could of course be a seperate package from the current one,
> > > or the same, or whatever). Including the development-version gives me a
> 
> > It already is. I have uploaded the package kernel-patch-vserver about a week
> > ago. The problem is that the FTP masters have not approved it.
> 
> Ok. In this case, I can try to get it approved a bit faster. Hm, that's
> a bit difficult to get that done for uploads to experimental, as I can't
> argue that this one is important for release. Is there a specific reason
> why you renamed it from kernel-patch-ctx?

Lot of user requests. So I thought it was better to have it correct from the
start instead of fixing that later. I also asked "upstream" how they wanted it
to be named and they did not think -ctx was a good name as it has not been used
for years.

> > > bit of bad feeling in the stomach, even if it works for me since some
> > > time. One might be inclined to ask upstream whether they can do some
> > > sort of pre-release or whatever for us, which would reduce the bad
> > > feeling quite much.
> > > 
> > > Well, that was now rather lengthy explaining my ideas, but I should try
> > > to not make the mistake of trying to micro-manage issues - and of
> > > course, it's your call as maintainer how to proceed.
> > 
> > What I need before I will release the development branch to sarge is:
> > * #297806 fixed. Is this a gcc problem?
> 
> I spoke about that bug on the BSP-channel; I hope somebody picks that
> one up.
> 
> > * Need to know that util-vserver compile on at least ppc, sparc and i386
> >   and preferrably on more so it can enter the archives faster.
> 
> Hm. I try to work on this a bit, also on the other compilation-issues.

Sounds good. I will try to get a testing server up and running so I can
test util-vserver development branch on some machine that is not for
production use. It will probably speed things up a bit.

> 
> For the rest, we can see later.

Thanks

// Ola

> 
> Thanks,
> Andi
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