Sure.  Please do consider the number of packages which are integrated
 with the evolution address book for example:

 If we let people install Thunderbird instead of Evolution, they might
 not notice the difference for mail, but they would notice the
 difference in terms of integration in the desktop.

Yes, understand. However, this particular problem is already calling for
even more general solution. Some kind of integration so that user could
switch applications or even desktop environments and let his contacts,
mails, network settings etc. move with him. Some general GNU framework
for storing this kind of information that would GNOME, KDE and XYZ apps
just access and use. Why should user lose all his data when he realises,
that the program he has chosen first, dosen't really fit his needs.. Or
why should he tamper with export-import in the better case... And so on.


 Beside, if you didn't notice, the GNOME desktop does not aim at having
 the most features, or more features than any other, quite the contrary:

   The naked aspect of Epiphany is on purpose, not because the
 programmers didn't have time to write the features.

I know. Funny, that Mozilla Firefox and Thunderbird has both started
with very similar goals in order of simplicity :o)


 And I believe Epiphany (or Galeon) offer Flash support as well -- from
 what I read, I didn't try it myself.  Keep in mind that Epiphany is
 built atop of mozilla.org sources (in Debian, xulrunner, in Ubuntu
 firefox, and it's possible to build it against seamonkey or the old
 mozilla as well).  Actually, all binary plugins that work with Firefox
 (such as the JVM, mozplugger, mozilla-bonobo, mozilla-mplayer,
 mozilla-helix-player, mozilla-plugin-vlc, gnash, totem-mozilla etc.)
 should work with Epiphany (or Galeon).

That's nice. The question is, how much of it does work in real (I don't
have any impression and probably will not have any soon) and how would
it be resolved if something stopped working later.

 Here are some alternatives (some of which I already mentionned in this
 report):
 - install both Evolution and Thunderbird (or both of Firefox and
   Epiphany)

Yes, that's exactly what many'd like to see happen automatically.

 - don't use the meta-packages but select the packages you want manually

Dependencies complain loudly when intended to remove Evolution. The
integration You mentioned..

 - use equivs (apt-cache show equivs)
 - fork the meta-gnome2 package for your site and customize it

 We will address the problem (hence - wontfix), but only when Apt
 enforces Recommends.  When it does, we should switch to using
 Recommends, and you will be able to override any of the meta-gnome2
 dependencies.

Seems that many things depend on it.


 This won't happen before the next release though.

   Bye,

Bye

--

Odchádzajúca správa neobsahuje vírusy, nepou¾ívam Windows.
=======================

Mgr. Peter Tuhársky
Referát informatiky
Mesto Banská Bystrica
ÈSA 26
975 39 Banská Bystrica

Tel: +421 48 4330 118
Fax: +421 48 411 3575

=======================

Reply via email to