reopen 391860 thanks (reopening, because it was closed after my inital reopen command since somehow your -done mail was processed later than my control mail)
Hi, > ---8<---8<---8<---8<---8<---8<---8<---8<---8<--- > Record your desktop session to a GIF file > > Byzanz is a GNOME Panel applet to record your current desktop to an > animated GIF file. This is especially useful for publishing on the web, > since every browser understands the GIF format. Use this for your > secreencasts! > --->8--->8--->8--->8--->8--->8--->8--->8--->8--- Note that my suggestion is entirely following upstream: "Session recorder producing animated GIF images" is essentially upstreams one-line description. Why does Debian need an entirely different one-line description? Description: Small screencast creator Yes, upstream uses screencast. But only as the very last word in the description, not in the first line. You're welcome to use it in the body of the description of the package. Note that "screencast creator" also sounds like it would allow editing. Editing for screencasts can be very useful, both for cutting out overly long delays and for adding an audio track. The term "recorder" is probably more appropriate. > Please note the last word... Please note the fourth word. And the first line in its entirety. > Like I already explained to you on IRC I think there is no solution for > this problem since it's almost impossible to form a description which > makes everyone happy or could guarantee that everyone will find this > package with only some vague keywords in mind. The current description Sure, but you could easily make _more_ people happy. > since it already contains the mayor keywords "desktop, record and > screencast". But as always, it's not possible to satisfy every user. How about "session"? Upstream uses session in the first line. > This problem BTW applies to every Debian package in general and I think > a better solution to fix such issues is via an alternative mechanism > like debtags. Debtags can't address everything, and it in fact _relies_ on good package descriptions for the AI. And for many applications, debtags will never be able to replace full text search with good descriptions. It will always be just an additional way of locating software packages. Also you completely ignored the subject of the bug report: > Byzanz and Istanbul should use common terms in their description Whether you like my suggestion on how to fix it or not: this is not fixed, and I don't see any reason why it shouldn't be fixed or is "wontfix". A description will never satisfy everbody, granted. However, why should the descriptions of Istanbul and Byzanz be this different, when they're basically doing the same thing? Shouldn't there be an "as good as we'll be able to do" description that fits both except for the file format? Current descriptions: --- Description: Small screencast creator Byzanz is a command-line/GNOME Panel applet allowing you to record your current desktop or parts of it to an animated GIF file. This is especially useful for publishing on the web, since every browser understands the GIF format. . Byzanz is not limited to gnome, you can use it under non-GTK environments like KDE too. . Homepage: http://people.freedesktop.org/~company/byzanz/ --- Description: Desktop session recorder Istanbul is a desktop session recorder for the Free Desktop. It records your session into an Ogg Theora video file. To start the recording, you click on its icon in the notification area. To stop you click its icon again. . It works on Gnome, KDE, XFCE and others. --- Proposal: Description: Desktop session recorder producing animated GIF images Byzanz is an application to record your desktop or parts of it (such as an applications window) to an animated GIF file (a so called "screencast"). It has a command line interface as well as a GNOME panel applet, but it can be used in non-GTK environments such as KDE as well. . While being less space efficient than other formats, the GIF file format is particularly useful for publishing on the web, since every web browser understands the GIF format. This format offers the best compatibility. . Homepage: http://people.freedesktop.org/~company/byzanz/ --- But please talk to the istanbul maintainer. He already is working on an improved description. It makes a lot of sense that these two apps show up as byzanz - ... record ... desktop ... animated GIF images istanbul - ... record ... desktop ... Ogg Theora video to make it obvious that they have essentially the same purpose. best regards, Erich Schubert -- erich@(vitavonni.de|debian.org) -- GPG Key ID: 4B3A135C (o_ The future is here. It's just not evenly distributed yet. //\ Der Wissende weiß, dass er glauben muß. V_/_
