On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 02:49:27PM -0500, Chris Lawrence wrote:
> On 10/12/06, Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >this is just a heads-up from the Debian exim4 maintainer team: We have
> >recently uploaded a version of exim4 to unstable that does not ask any
> >questions during a d-i run. exim4 will thus default to a "local mail
> >only" setup on most new installations.
> >
> >Thus, if reportbug delivers new reports to /usr/lib/sendmail or to
> >localhost via SMTP, the reports are unlikely to be actually sent.
> >
> >If reportbug can detect this situation, I suggest that it does so.
> >
> >We are willing to cooperate to allow this.
> 
> Presumably reportbug could get the debconf setting for the installation 
> type.

If that's allowed. Otherwise, we can give you an "API" to query exim4
for its configuration. otoh, that one is already there, just do
exim4 -bt [EMAIL PROTECTED] and check the results.

> Mind you, I'm not at all convinced that this is sane default behavior
> for a MTA;

Neither am I, but the d-i people have been pressing very hard that
exim4 stops asking technical questions during installation, and we had
to settle for a default.

>  it certainly throws 20+ years of expected Unix behavior out the
>  window.

Agreed, but things have changed. The majority of our installations is
nowadays done on consumer-grade internet connections which might have
their port 25 filtered on ISP side, transparently proxied to a
smarthost which requires authentication or be listed in a DUL type
blocking list.

> Ugh.  I think the best default behavior for reportbug now would be to
> connect directly via SMTP to bugs.debian.org, even though that could
> lead to some subtle breakage here and there.

Yes, considering an ISP with tcp/25 filtered.

> Realistically I think the eventual way out has to be some sort of
> HTTP-based submission to debbugs that injects things directly into the
> BTS and returns a report number immediately; it certainly would make
> my life easier.

Sounds like the way that'll most likely work. For a few years, before
filters with http state/content functions are widely deployed.

Greetings
Marc

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