On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 12:03:00PM +0100, Diego Biurrun wrote:
> > Why a lot of damage?  How many machines are too slow for software scaling?
> 
> I would guess about 80% of all the machines out there.  You know, not
> everybody has a machine fast enough to run Beryl or can afford one.
> 
> All machines below 2GHz I would guess, this excludes every non-x86 right
> away.  My last generation PowerBook is not fast enough, even for a video
> of moderate size.
> 
> When the machine is too slow to scale the video, video and audio go out
> of sync and the movie becomes unwatchable.
> 
> I would guess the number of people taking screenshots at all is in the
> low one-digit percent of the users of MPlayer.  It's not unreasonable at
> all to expect them to take appropriate measures.  The situation is the
> same for all other multimedia players, btw.
> 
> Does this give you an idea how much damage such a change would do?

Yes.  I see your point here.  Reimar also made a good one.  I won't insist
on having software scaling as default.

But then again we could try to fit well for users of powerful machines
as well.  What do you think of my proposition of rearranging the template
a bit (but still defaulting to accelerated mode) ?

> > That's a workaround.  For plain screenshots it'd be enough to enable this
> > workaround by default.
> > 
> > For Beryl, we would need another workaround, and presumably a more 
> > complicated
> > one.  We shouldn't assume that is even possible to do that sanely.
> 
> This is not a workaround, this is the only feasible solution.  Now would
> you please try it?

That's not necessary, I believe when you say it works.  It doesn't work for
Beryl though, or for $insert-new-weird-yet-to-be-found-stuff-here.

> I feel extremely silly discussing this proposition at all.  Broken
> distro packages defaulting to the x11 video output driver was the #1
> source of complaints about MPlayer upstream.  Needless to say, it was
> all blamed on us instead of on the packagers.

Ok.  I understand you might have been quite annoyed about this.  Sorry
about that.  Now if we can re-arrange the templates a bit, I would be quite
happy with that.  Can I proceed with this and send a proposed patch?

-- 
Robert Millan

ACK STORM, S.L.  -  http://www.ackstorm.es/


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