Hi Michael, Michael Meskes wrote: > On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 02:19:04PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: >> reassign 419049 quota >> ... >> No, actually I don't quite agree that it's a bug in network-manager. > > Maybe in dbus?
Moving dbus (or network-manager that is) to a later point in the shutdown process won't really help. It would have to be moved after S31umountnfs.sh, which in turn is run after S20sendsigs. So the dbus and network-manager daemon would be shut down too early anyways by sendsigs (that's also the reason why S15wpa-ifupdown is run before S20sendsigs. This also means that if you setup your connection via wireless/WPA using the wpasupplicant roaming mode, you will encounter the same problems as with network-manager). >> I'd argue that quota (and also the nfs umount script) shouldn't rely on >> a arbitrary priority number during shutdown. > > Hmm, looking at the links in /etc/rc6.d it seems to me that we have a > lot of buggy packages then. It cannot be correct IMO to down an > interface while critical server processes are still running. For > instance syslog might still try to remotely log the reboot process but > cannot since the device went away. > >> The real fix actually would have to happen within the init system. Our >> current init scheme is simply not flexible enough for that. >> I can do nothing about that in network-manager, that's why I reassign >> the bug again. > > I'm willing to accept that there should be a solution to have > dependancies in our initscripts that we do not have atm. The biggest > risk IMO is not quota hanging but soem network filesystems not being > unmounted at all. However, I fail to see why this is a quota bug. Would > you please care to elaborate? I'm not saying, that quota is at fault here. I reassigned the bug mostly because it's imho not a bug in network-manager. network-manager is simply not conceived for such a use case. network-manager is intended for highly dynamic network environments, where networks come and go and where you switch between different networks. Removing network-manager is probably the best "bug fix" there is atm. For a static configuration with NFS mounts etc, as Johns' setup, I would recommend to use plain ifupdown. Cheers, Michael P.S.: What happens if you pull the network plug? Will quota then also fail to stop? Is this a matter of how the nfs share was mounted (hard or soft)? -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth?
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