Package: installation-reports Boot method: CD Image version: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/jigdo-cd/debian-testing-amd64-CD-1.jigdo Date: 9th Aug. 2007
Machine: Home Desktop/fileserver/printserver/audio Processor: AMD 6000X2 Memory: 2 GB Partitions: /dev/sda9 ext3 48592392 612412 45511596 2% / tmpfs tmpfs 1031484 0 1031484 0% /lib/init/rw udev tmpfs 10240 168 10072 2% /dev tmpfs tmpfs 1031484 0 1031484 0% /dev/shm /dev/sda1 ext3 474440 56117 393826 13% /boot /dev/sdc2 ext3 432656592 87643080 323035792 22% /home /dev/sdc1 ext3 48062468 15524376 30096616 35% /oldhomeetc /dev/sda7 ext3 48062440 184368 45436596 1% /tmp /dev/sda5 ext3 52870076 3853504 46330908 8% /usr /dev/sda6 ext3 40370192 387600 37931900 2% /usr/local /dev/sda8 ext3 48062440 768988 44851976 2% /var Output of lspci -nn: 00:00.0 RAM memory [0500]: nVidia Corporation C51 Host Bridge [10de:02f4] (rev a 2) 00:00.1 RAM memory [0500]: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 0 [10de:02fa ] (rev a2) 00:00.2 RAM memory [0500]: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 1 [10de:02fe] (rev a2) 00:00.3 RAM memory [0500]: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 5 [10de:02f8] (rev a2) 00:00.4 RAM memory [0500]: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 4 [10de:02f9] (rev a2) 00:00.5 RAM memory [0500]: nVidia Corporation C51 Host Bridge [10de:02ff] (rev a2) 00:00.6 RAM memory [0500]: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 3 [10de:027f] (rev a2) 00:00.7 RAM memory [0500]: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 2 [10de:027e] (rev a2) 00:03.0 PCI bridge [0604]: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge [10de:02fd] (rev a1) 00:04.0 PCI bridge [0604]: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge [10de:02fb] (rev a1) 00:08.0 RAM memory [0500]: nVidia Corporation MCP55 Memory Controller [10de:0369] (rev a1) 00:09.0 ISA bridge [0601]: nVidia Corporation MCP55 LPC Bridge [10de:0360] (rev a2) 00:09.1 SMBus [0c05]: nVidia Corporation MCP55 SMBus [10de:0368] (rev a2) 00:09.2 RAM memory [0500]: nVidia Corporation MCP55 Memory Controller [10de:036a] (rev a2) 00:0a.0 USB Controller [0c03]: nVidia Corporation MCP55 USB Controller [10de:036c] (rev a1) 00:0a.1 USB Controller [0c03]: nVidia Corporation MCP55 USB Controller [10de:036d] (rev a2) 00:0c.0 IDE interface [0101]: nVidia Corporation MCP55 IDE [10de:036e] (rev a1) 00:0d.0 IDE interface [0101]: nVidia Corporation MCP55 SATA Controller [10de:037f] (rev a2) 00:0d.1 IDE interface [0101]: nVidia Corporation MCP55 SATA Controller [10de:037f] (rev a2) 00:0d.2 IDE interface [0101]: nVidia Corporation MCP55 SATA Controller [10de:037f] (rev a2) 00:0e.0 PCI bridge [0604]: nVidia Corporation MCP55 PCI bridge [10de:0370] (rev a2) 00:0e.1 Audio device [0403]: nVidia Corporation MCP55 High Definition Audio [10de:0371] (rev a2) 00:10.0 Bridge [0680]: nVidia Corporation MCP55 Ethernet [10de:0373] (rev a2) 00:11.0 Bridge [0680]: nVidia Corporation MCP55 Ethernet [10de:0373] (rev a2) 00:12.0 PCI bridge [0604]: nVidia Corporation MCP55 PCI Express bridge [10de:0376] (rev a2) 00:14.0 PCI bridge [0604]: nVidia Corporation MCP55 PCI Express bridge [10de:0374] (rev a2) 00:16.0 PCI bridge [0604]: nVidia Corporation MCP55 PCI Express bridge [10de:0375] (rev a2) 00:17.0 PCI bridge [0604]: nVidia Corporation MCP55 PCI Express bridge [10de:0377] (rev a2) 00:18.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration [1022:1100] 00:18.1 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map [1022:1101] 00:18.2 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller [1022:1102] 00:18.3 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control [1022:1103] 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation Unknown device [10de:0193] (rev a2) 03:07.0 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: VIA Technologies Inc. ICE1712 [Envy24] PCI Multi-Channel I/O Controller [1412:1712] (rev 02) 03:0b.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394) [0c00]: Texas Instruments TSB43AB22/A IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link) [104c:8023] 06:00.0 Mass storage controller [0180]: Silicon Image, Inc. SiI 3132 Serial ATA Raid II Controller [1095:3132] (rev 01) and lspci -vnn: 00:00.0 RAM memory [0500]: nVidia Corporation C51 Host Bridge [10de:02f4] (rev a2) Subsystem: nVidia Corporation C51 Host Bridge [10de:02f4] Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0 Capabilities: [44] HyperTransport: Slave or Primary Interface Capabilities: [e0] HyperTransport: MSI Mapping 00:00.1 RAM memory [0500]: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 0 [10de:02fa] (rev a2) Subsystem: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 0 [10de:02fa] Flags: 66MHz, fast devsel 00:00.2 RAM memory [0500]: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 1 [10de:02fe] (rev a2) Subsystem: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 1 [10de:02fe] Flags: 66MHz, fast devsel 00:00.3 RAM memory [0500]: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 5 [10de:02f8] (rev a2) Subsystem: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 5 [10de:02f8] Flags: 66MHz, fast devsel 00:00.4 RAM memory [0500]: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 4 [10de:02f9] (rev a2) Subsystem: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 4 [10de:02f9] Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0 00:00.5 RAM memory [0500]: nVidia Corporation C51 Host Bridge [10de:02ff] (rev a2) Subsystem: nVidia Corporation C51 Host Bridge [10de:02ff] Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0 Capabilities: [44] #00 [0000] 00:00.6 RAM memory [0500]: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 3 [10de:027f] (rev a2) Subsystem: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 3 [10de:027f] Flags: 66MHz, fast devsel 00:00.7 RAM memory [0500]: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 2 [10de:027e] (rev a2) Subsystem: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 2 [10de:027e] Flags: 66MHz, fast devsel 00:03.0 PCI bridge [0604]: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge [10de:02fd] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0 Capabilities: [40] Subsystem: nVidia Corporation Unknown device [10de:0000] Capabilities: [48] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [50] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+ Queue=0/1 Enable+ Capabilities: [60] HyperTransport: MSI Mapping Capabilities: [80] Express Root Port (Slot+) IRQ 0 Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel 00:04.0 PCI bridge [0604]: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge [10de:02fb] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=02, sec-latency=0 I/O behind bridge: 0000a000-0000afff Memory behind bridge: f8000000-fbffffff Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 00000000e0000000-00000000efffffff Capabilities: [40] Subsystem: nVidia Corporation Unknown device [10de:0000] Capabilities: [48] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [50] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+ Queue=0/1 Enable+ Capabilities: [60] HyperTransport: MSI Mapping Capabilities: [80] Express Root Port (Slot+) IRQ 0 Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel 00:08.0 RAM memory [0500]: nVidia Corporation MCP55 Memory Controller [10de:0369] (rev a1) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device [1043:cb84] Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0 Capabilities: [44] HyperTransport: Slave or Primary Interface Capabilities: [e0] #00 [fee0] 00:09.0 ISA bridge [0601]: nVidia Corporation MCP55 LPC Bridge [10de:0360] (rev a2) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device [1043:cb84] Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0 00:09.1 SMBus [0c05]: nVidia Corporation MCP55 SMBus [10de:0368] (rev a2) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device [1043:cb84] Flags: 66MHz, fast devsel, IRQ 255 I/O ports at 1c00 [size=64] I/O ports at 1c40 [size=64] Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2 00:09.2 RAM memory [0500]: nVidia Corporation MCP55 Memory Controller [10de:036a] (rev a2) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device [1043:cb84] Flags: 66MHz, fast devsel 00:0a.0 USB Controller [0c03]: nVidia Corporation MCP55 USB Controller [10de:036c] (rev a1) (prog-if 10 [OHCI]) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device [1043:cb84] Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 22 Memory at fe02f000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2 00:0a.1 USB Controller [0c03]: nVidia Corporation MCP55 USB Controller [10de:036d] (rev a2) (prog-if 20 [EHCI]) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device [1043:cb84] Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 23 Memory at fe02e000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256] Capabilities: [44] Debug port Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2 00:0c.0 IDE interface [0101]: nVidia Corporation MCP55 IDE [10de:036e] (rev a1) (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP]) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device [1043:cb84] Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0 [virtual] Memory at 000001f0 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=8] [virtual] Memory at 000003f0 (type 3, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=1] [virtual] Memory at 00000170 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=8] [virtual] Memory at 00000370 (type 3, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=1] I/O ports at f400 [size=16] Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2 00:0d.0 IDE interface [0101]: nVidia Corporation MCP55 SATA Controller [10de:037f] (rev a2) (prog-if 85 [Master SecO PriO]) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device [1043:cb84] Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 23 I/O ports at 09f0 [size=8] I/O ports at 0bf0 [size=4] I/O ports at 0970 [size=8] I/O ports at 0b70 [size=4] I/O ports at e000 [size=16] Memory at fe02d000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [b0] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+ Queue=0/2 Enable- Capabilities: [cc] HyperTransport: MSI Mapping 00:0d.1 IDE interface [0101]: nVidia Corporation MCP55 SATA Controller [10de:037f] (rev a2) (prog-if 85 [Master SecO PriO]) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device [1043:cb84] Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 22 I/O ports at 09e0 [size=8] I/O ports at 0be0 [size=4] I/O ports at 0960 [size=8] I/O ports at 0b60 [size=4] I/O ports at cc00 [size=16] Memory at fe02c000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [b0] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+ Queue=0/2 Enable- Capabilities: [cc] HyperTransport: MSI Mapping 00:0d.2 IDE interface [0101]: nVidia Corporation MCP55 SATA Controller [10de:037f] (rev a2) (prog-if 85 [Master SecO PriO]) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device [1043:cb84] Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 21 I/O ports at c800 [size=8] I/O ports at c400 [size=4] I/O ports at c000 [size=8] I/O ports at bc00 [size=4] I/O ports at b800 [size=16] Memory at fe02b000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [b0] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+ Queue=0/2 Enable- Capabilities: [cc] HyperTransport: MSI Mapping 00:0e.0 PCI bridge [0604]: nVidia Corporation MCP55 PCI bridge [10de:0370] (rev a2) (prog-if 01 [Subtractive decode]) Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=03, subordinate=03, sec-latency=32 I/O behind bridge: 00009000-00009fff Memory behind bridge: fdf00000-fdffffff Capabilities: [b8] Subsystem: nVidia Corporation Unknown device [10de:cb84] Capabilities: [8c] HyperTransport: MSI Mapping 00:0e.1 Audio device [0403]: nVidia Corporation MCP55 High Definition Audio [10de:0371] (rev a2) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device [1043:81f6] Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 20 Memory at fe020000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [50] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask+ 64bit+ Queue=0/0 Enable- Capabilities: [6c] HyperTransport: MSI Mapping 00:10.0 Bridge [0680]: nVidia Corporation MCP55 Ethernet [10de:0373] (rev a2) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device [1043:cb84] Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 21 Memory at fe02a000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] I/O ports at b400 [size=8] Memory at fe029000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256] Memory at fe028000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16] Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [70] MSI-X: Enable- Mask- TabSize=8 Capabilities: [50] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask+ 64bit+ Queue=0/3 Enable- Capabilities: [6c] HyperTransport: MSI Mapping 00:11.0 Bridge [0680]: nVidia Corporation MCP55 Ethernet [10de:0373] (rev a2) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device [1043:cb84] Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 20 Memory at fe027000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] I/O ports at b000 [size=8] Memory at fe026000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256] Memory at fe025000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16] Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [70] MSI-X: Enable- Mask- TabSize=8 Capabilities: [50] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask+ 64bit+ Queue=0/3 Enable- Capabilities: [6c] HyperTransport: MSI Mapping 00:12.0 PCI bridge [0604]: nVidia Corporation MCP55 PCI Express bridge [10de:0376] (rev a2) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=04, subordinate=04, sec-latency=0 Capabilities: [40] Subsystem: nVidia Corporation Unknown device [10de:0000] Capabilities: [48] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [50] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+ Queue=0/1 Enable+ Capabilities: [60] HyperTransport: MSI Mapping Capabilities: [80] Express Root Port (Slot+) IRQ 0 Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel 00:14.0 PCI bridge [0604]: nVidia Corporation MCP55 PCI Express bridge [10de:0374] (rev a2) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=05, subordinate=05, sec-latency=0 Capabilities: [40] Subsystem: nVidia Corporation Unknown device [10de:0000] Capabilities: [48] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [50] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+ Queue=0/1 Enable+ Capabilities: [60] HyperTransport: MSI Mapping Capabilities: [80] Express Root Port (Slot+) IRQ 0 Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel 00:16.0 PCI bridge [0604]: nVidia Corporation MCP55 PCI Express bridge [10de:0375] (rev a2) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=06, subordinate=06, sec-latency=0 I/O behind bridge: 00008000-00008fff Memory behind bridge: fde00000-fdefffff Capabilities: [40] Subsystem: nVidia Corporation Unknown device [10de:0000] Capabilities: [48] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [50] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+ Queue=0/1 Enable+ Capabilities: [60] HyperTransport: MSI Mapping Capabilities: [80] Express Root Port (Slot+) IRQ 0 Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel 00:17.0 PCI bridge [0604]: nVidia Corporation MCP55 PCI Express bridge [10de:0377] (rev a2) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=07, subordinate=07, sec-latency=0 Capabilities: [40] Subsystem: nVidia Corporation Unknown device [10de:0000] Capabilities: [48] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [50] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+ Queue=0/1 Enable+ Capabilities: [60] HyperTransport: MSI Mapping Capabilities: [80] Express Root Port (Slot+) IRQ 0 Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel 00:18.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration [1022:1100] Flags: fast devsel Capabilities: [80] HyperTransport: Host or Secondary Interface 00:18.1 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map [1022:1101] Flags: fast devsel 00:18.2 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller [1022:1102] Flags: fast devsel 00:18.3 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control [1022:1103] Flags: fast devsel Capabilities: [f0] #0f [0010] 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation Unknown device [10de:0193] (rev a2) (prog-if 00 [VGA]) Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16 Memory at fa000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] Memory at e0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] Memory at f8000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32M] I/O ports at ac00 [size=128] [virtual] Expansion ROM at fbfe0000 [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [68] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+ Queue=0/0 Enable- Capabilities: [78] Express Endpoint IRQ 0 Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel Capabilities: [128] Power Budgeting 03:07.0 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: VIA Technologies Inc. ICE1712 [Envy24] PCI Multi-Channel I/O Controller [1412:1712] (rev 02) Subsystem: VIA Technologies Inc. M-Audio Delta Audiophile [1412:d634] Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 17 I/O ports at 9c00 [size=32] I/O ports at 9800 [size=16] I/O ports at 9400 [size=16] I/O ports at 9000 [size=64] Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 1 03:0b.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394) [0c00]: Texas Instruments TSB43AB22/A IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link) [104c:8023] (prog-if 10 [OHCI]) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device [1043:815b] Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 16 Memory at fdfff000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2K] Memory at fdff8000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2 06:00.0 Mass storage controller [0180]: Silicon Image, Inc. SiI 3132 Serial ATA Raid II Controller [1095:3132] (rev 01) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device [1043:819f] Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16 Memory at fdeff000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=128] Memory at fdef8000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] I/O ports at 8c00 [size=128] Expansion ROM at fde00000 [disabled] [size=512K] Capabilities: [54] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [5c] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+ Queue=0/0 Enable- Capabilities: [70] Express Legacy Endpoint IRQ 0 Capabilities: [100] Advanced Error Reporting Base System Installation Checklist: [O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it Initial boot: [0] Detect network card: [0/E] Configure network: [ ] Detect CD: [0] Load installer modules: [0] Detect hard drives: [0] Partition hard drives: [0] Install base system: [0] Clock/timezone setup: [0] User/password setup: [0] Install tasks: [0] Install boot loader: [0] Overall install: [0] Comments/Problems: <Description of the install, in prose, and any thoughts, comments and ideas you had during the initial install.> Initially tried guided partition with lvm/encryption on 250GB disk, it took just over two hours to prepare disk. The message on screen said either preparing or formatting boot partition during that time. When finished the way the disk was divided did'nt fit with my immediate needs e.g. /var was set to 3.1GBand as I was going to upgrade to my previous Sid installation, via aptoncd discs made earlier, which required 3.3GB. This may have been easily remedied but my current knowledge of lvm is sparse. So installed on partions as above. Network recognised the two onboard nics but not ralink rt73 wireless though I had the serialmonkey module software to hand. Post-install Xorg was configured to use vesa which worked after every reboot but gave a blank screen on logging out or using Ctrl/Alt/F1-F6 to get to a terminal. Tried the nv driver but that didn't work at all. Otherwise all ok. Anyway thanks for all the great work people have/are putting into Debian. -- rob