Package: vrms 
Version: </=1.13

Hello:

I was looking at the change log for vrms 1.13, and can't understand why
this is listed as non-free. It is licensed under a Creative Commons
Attribution-Share Alike 2.5 Generic license.  Which allows users to
copy, distribute and transmit the work.  As well as to adapt the work.
(http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/) 

Now let's look at that in reference to the 4 freedoms as put forth by
the FSF...
(http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html)

Free software is a matter of the users' freedom to run, copy,
distribute, study, change and improve the software. More precisely, it
refers to four kinds of freedom, for the users of the software:

*The freedom to run the program, for any purpose (freedom 0). 

This is implied you kind of have me there.
   
*The freedom to study how the program works, and adapt it to your needs
(freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this. 

You are free to Remix - to adapt the work

*The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor
(freedom 2).

You are free to Share - to copy,distribute and transmit the work

* The freedom to improve the program, and release your improvements to
the public, so that the whole community benefits (freedom 3). Access to
the source code is a precondition for this.

Share Alike. If you alter, transform, or build upon this work, you may
distribute the resulting work only under the same or similar license to
this one.
                     

Ok now for some snippets that I couldn't fit into the model above:

(from the Free Software Definition)
"However, certain kinds of rules about the manner of distributing free
software are acceptable, when they don't conflict with the central
freedoms. For example, copyleft (very simply stated) is the rule that
when redistributing the program, you cannot add restrictions to deny
other people the central freedoms. This rule does not conflict with the
central freedoms; rather it protects them." 

This is exactly like the share-alike clause.

(from GPLv3 [http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html])
"For the developers' and authors' protection, the GPL clearly explains
that there is no warranty for this free software. For both users' and
authors' sake, the GPL requires that modified versions be marked as
changed, so that their problems will not be attributed erroneously to
authors of previous versions." 

This is exactly like the attribution clause.

Here is a little bit from "Various Licenses and Comments about Them"
(http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html)

 Creative Commons Attribution 2.0 license (a.k.a. CC-BY)

    This is a non-copyleft free license that is good for art [see that]
and entertainment works, and educational works. Please don't use it for
software or documentation, since it is incompatible with the GNU GPL and
with the GNU FDL.

    Creative Commons publishes many licenses which are very different.
Therefore, to say that a work "uses a Creative Commons license" is to
leave the principal questions about the work's licensing unanswered.
When you see such a statement in a work, please ask the author to
highlight the substance of the license choices. And if someone proposes
to "use a Creative Commons license" for a certain work, it is vital to
ask immediately, "Which one?" [good point, for another discussion] 

Creative Commons Attribution-Sharealike 2.0 license (a.k.a. CC-BY-SA)

    This is a copyleft free license that is good for artistic [again
talking about art] and entertainment works, and educational works.
Please don't use it for software or documentation, since it is
incompatible with the GNU GPL and with the GNU FDL.

    Please see additional comments about Creative Commons licenses just
above.

I think that it is a little unfair to call something non-free that is
licensed under such a free license.  The CC-attribution, share alike is
almost exactly the GPL.  The only issue I see is there is no source code
for an image, but you are given the freedom to "remix" it as you like. 
There is nothing stopping you from retaining all of your freedoms, and
the FSF itself says that it's okay for art and icon are art, so please
remove this from the list.

Please feel free to send ANY feedback.  I am anxious to to hear from
someone.


Thank you for your time, 

three
threethirty,us
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