Hi Simon,  

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 01:53:41 +0200
Simon Cross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 8/16/07, Ricardo Mones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >   By the way, the voices in my head tell me not to change package names
> > just for fun ;-)
> 
> Look, this clearly violates the principle of least surprise (the game
> doesn't even have a Wikipedia page; the browser is GNOME's browser).
> If you're going to argue with this, please try raise some sort of
> counter point rather than flippantly stating the opposite opinion.

  All epiphany users could raise the same principle you're referring: the
game it's called Epiphany so the package should be named epiphany. And the
fact the game existed before the browser is a powerful reason on their side.

> I'm not saying this is a serious bug, but to claim there is nothing
> wrong is disingenuous.

  Indeed, browser developers choose a widely used name for it. It was so
common that another piece of software already was named epiphany. That's
clearly a wrong decision.

> Perhaps you could explain to me why:
> 
> 1) typing "epiphany" launches the browser but typing "epiphany-game"
> launches the game,
> 2) typing "man epiphany" brings up the the man page for the browser
> but typing "man epiphanty-game" brings up the game's help,
> 3) the Debian install rules for the epiphany package *manually rename
> the epiphany executable from the default name of epiphany to
> epiphany-game*.
> 
> All I'm asking for here is a little consistency.

  Maybe then the epiphany alternative (currently there's no real binary
named epiphany, just epiphany-gecko and epiphany-webkit) should be renamed
epiphany-browser. 1) and 2) are consistent between them (manpage must follow
binary name) - 3) (and 1)) is to ease the life of our users: epiphany browser
package used /usr/bin/epiphany despite /usr/games/epiphany already existed. 
This resulted in the game command being masked (notice than /usr/bin appears
first than /usr/games in $PATH), so to avoid users to enter full path to run
the game a renaming was done. See the epiphany changelog [0], year 2003.

> > You'll have to file a separate bug for that, but given the amount of
> > "confused people" I see in this bug I think things are pretty clear.
> 
> It's a minor issue. People are busy. Ubuntu has already had one user
> file a bug because they thought the browser hadn't installed properly
> [1].
> 
> [1] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/epiphany/+bug/40922

  Did you see how it was resolved? :)

  regards,

[0] 
http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/e/epiphany/epiphany_0.5.1-4/changelog
-- 
 Ricardo Mones
 http://people.debian.org/~mones
 «What I tell you three times is true. -- Lewis Carroll»

Attachment: signature.asc
Description: PGP signature

Reply via email to