On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 08:11:08PM -0800, Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
was heard to say:
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 06:16:58PM +0200, Eddy Petrișor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> was heard to say:
> > On 14/01/2008, Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > To me (as a user) is really clear what should happen for the issue you 
> > raised:
> > 
> > I simply don't care that there is another component behind aptitude
> > that provides it with more info. As long as I don't see that component
> > as a different application, which I don't in debtags' case, apt-get
> > update/aptitude upadate should automatically pull in a debtags update.
> 
>   How does aptitude provide progress indication for a debtags download?
>
>   What if something goes wrong (e.g., network error)?  How does it get
> indicated?  On my computer, when I take the network interface down
> "debtags update" exits successfully with no output.
> 
>   Does debtags ever write to standard error? (presumably it does, so
> I'll have to write code to catch standard error so it doesn't scribble
> on the screen) Does it have a standardized output protocol that I could
> parse to extract messages or does it write plain text?

  OK, I've looked a bit more at this.  In the default configuration,
it's perfectly fine to run "debtags update"; this just scavenges
information from the apt cache and builds the debtags cache from it.

  Unfortunately, that's not the case when debtags is given a network
source.  In fact, enabling the example source (on "iterating.org")
causes debtags, or rather wget invoked by debtags, to spew a bunch of
information directly to the terminal.  If the connection times out, as
is happening right now, wget will retry twenty times (according to its
manpage) before giving up.

  So, I suppose I could get into the business of trying to parse the
output of "wget" ... but that seems fundamentally dicey to me.  On the
other hand, I see a "--local" option to "debtags update" that will
suppress network updates.  So does another option called "--reindex".
The manpage doesn't make the distinction clear, but I guess that --local
will scan the apt cache and extract tag information, whereas --reindex
just rebuilds the debtags index?


  So, to summarize: it appears that "/usr/bin/debtags --local > /dev/null 2>&1"
will update the debtags cache so it reflects the current state of the apt
database, it should be run after updating the apt lists, and people who
have enabled a network source for debtags are responsible for updating
that source themselves from time to time until debtags gets an apt
method and/or pkgAcquire::Item subclass.  Does that seem reasonable?

  Daniel



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