Hi Kel,

I haven't used ndiswrapper in ages.  Feel free to do whatever you like w/
the package (including removing me as an Uploader)!


On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 08:50:21 +1000
Kel Modderman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi jak and Andres,
> 
> (CC'ing Andres, just to make sure he is comfortable with our proposal)
> 
> Hi Andres, Do you mind if ndiswrapper debian package is maintained in
> collab-maint with the help of Julian Andres Klode?
> 
> He is a Debian Maintainer, and would eventually like to do unassisted uploads
> of ndiswrapper to the archive, should either yourself, or i guess, Daniel
> Baumann agree.
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> On Friday 04 April 2008 03:00:13 Julian Andres Klode wrote:
> > > Any feedback on the described changes to tools?
> > The module version detection works perfectly.
> 
> Cheers for checking.
> 
> > > 
> > > Also, after some thought, I would be open to allow you to look after 
> > > future
> > > maintenance of ndiswrapper package; the other packages you maintain that 
> > > I use
> > Well, thank you for asking.
> > 
> > Actually, I haven't used ndiswrapper since last year (except
> > for creating directories in /etc/ndiswrapper to have some invalid drivers 
> > for ndisgtk
> > testing). [I don't need it anymore, as I'm using Intel Wireless on 64bit 
> > systems]
> > 
> > But it's always a good idea to have a package co-maintained. With my DM
> > status, I would also be able to upload new versions on my own (after one
> > upload which adds Dm-Upload-Allowed: yes), without the need for a sponsor.
> > 
> > You can add me to Uploaders and add a "Dm-Upload-Allowed: yes" to the 
> > source part
> > of the control file.
> 
> I also very seldom actually use ndiswrapper.
> 
> > 
> > > seem to be well taken care of (eg. aufs), plus you also do ndisgtk (of 
> > > which I
> > > would love to port to QT one day...).
> > Well, ndisgtk's core functionality will be integrated into jockey, a driver 
> > management
> > tool with QT4 and GTK frontend. It will detect network cards without 
> > drivers (incl. USB)
> > and you can click on them, it asks you where you want to search the driver 
> > (CD/Harddisk)
> > and finds all drivers on a cdrom automatically. But first I need to write 
> > python-ndiswrapper,
> > as some kind of bindings for ndiswrapper. (or I integrate it directly in 
> > jockey)
> > 
> > (BTW, i never used ndisgtk for real driver installation, I simply copied my 
> > /etc/ndiswrapper.)
> > 
> > > 
> > > Even if you wanted just to move maintenance to a shared area where we 
> > > both have
> > > possibility to commit, if that is reasonable. In this case I would not 
> > > object
> > I would prefer a distributed system like git or Mercurial or GNU Bazaar. 
> > Using git
> > makes it very easy, as you can easily use pristine-tar to keep small delta 
> > files to
> > regenerate identical upstream tarballs.
> > 
> > I would create such a repository in collab-maint, so every DD has commit 
> > access.
> > This is the easiest way currently. We would need some commit policies and I 
> > won't
> > create soon, as I'll first complete my work on debimg, python-libisofs and 
> > gimmie, as well
> > as an update for app-install-data. But it will happen sometime this month.
> 
> Ok, I am a git virgin, but I'm fine to pop my cherry with it. I agree that
> moving to collab-maint git would be cool, just let me know what needs to be
> done on my end.
> 
> > 
> > > changes such as that suggested here on #470774, and mainly make sure a 
> > > module
> > > is available for latest stable linux.
> > I can see the advantage of the current packaging, but I do not know of any 
> > other
> > distribution doing this. But switching to another packaging style is also 
> > useless
> > and would make ndiswrapper NEW. Therefore, I think the current packaging 
> > should be
> > kept.
> > 
> > BTW, I think ndiswrapper should be autobuilt in linux-modules-extra-2.6, 
> > and I
> > would do the steps needed for this.
> 
> I have already submitted a patch to BTS for this, and it was NAK'd. However, I
> am involved in project which has forked linux-2.6 and linux-modules-main-2.6
> and we have added ndiswrapper to the modules there, so I have working code
> already for this, and you would just need ask me to resubmit it. I have spoken
> with panthera about it, and he did not oppose the addition of ndiswrapper at
> that time.
> 
> http://svn.berlios.de/svnroot/repos/fullstory/linux-modules-sidux-main-2.6/trunk/ndiswrapper/
> 
> One showstopping problem, however, is that currently module binary packages
> generated by linux-modules-main-2.6 have no way to define a dependency
> or even a recommends on another package(s); this means that
> ndiswrapper-modules-_KVERS_ built from linux-modules conglomerate package
> will not automattically pull in ndiswrapper-utils-_VER_ at install time.
> This is bad.
> 
> > 
> > Summary:
> > 1. I agree to co-maintain this package.
> > 2. I agree to use a repository in collab-maint on git.debian.org,
> >    which I would setup this month.
> > 3. I agree with the current packaging style.
> 
> Sounds like a good plan.
> 
> Thanks, Kel.



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