On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 04:49:04AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > OK, thanks. Anyway > http://www.useit.com/alertbox/designer-user-differences.html . OK, bye.
Likewise, users intentionally playing dumb aren't comparable to ordinary users either. (Yes, everyone starts out with a blank slate; that doesn't mean they all intentionally try to take the worst possible course.) Furthermore, you apparently haven't really listened to my comments about how sshd automatically blocks compromised keys; remember that the best UI is always one where no UI is needed at all, where possible. ssh-vulnkey is *supplemental* to the automatic blacklisting, not an essential element of it. Also, just as designers are not users, users are not designers. Each must listen to the other in order to have a productive exchange. You have a track record of simply firing stuff at designers and not listening to what's said in return, which doesn't work any better than a designer who refuses to listen to users. If, as you did in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=483756#72, you propose specific protocol changes, you must accept that you are attempting to take the place of a designer and behave accordingly, which includes performing research before proposing changes. I'm not interested in any further e-mail from you on this subject, and will delete it unread. I have made many improvements to the (admittedly rather rushed) ssh-vulnkey implementation in response to user comments, and I expect to continue to do so; indeed, I have taken considerable time to respond to other issues you've raised, and have already made two changes addressing comments you've made in this bug report. However, I do not appreciate you dashing off two-line insults in return, and will not make changes I consider to be incorrect simply because you quote a usability URL at me (usability is extremely important, but mustn't trump correctness). People who are willing to meet me half-way rather than pretend superiority on the basis of a deliberate refusal to learn are welcome to correspond on this subject if they so wish. Regards, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]